Lisson Green

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11 Annotations

First Reading

Phil  •  Link

I don't know exactly where Lisson Green is, but the above location is the Lisson Green Estate, which is likely to be in approximately the same area.

Paul Brewster  •  Link

Wheatley footnotes as follows,
"The manor of Lisson Green (Domesday Lilesstone) remained a rural district till the end of the last century [18th?] and Dodsley(1761) describes it as 'a pleasant village near Paddington.'"

language hat  •  Link

Anybody have Hibbert and Weinreb's Encyclopedia of London?
It would be nice to know a little more about what and where Lisson Green was. All I can find online is the mention of Harcourt St. and Homer St. here:
http://www.londonancestor.com/lei…
Which leads me to suspect it stretched considerably south of the modern Lisson Green Estate.

Paul Brewster  •  Link

Here's a site that includes the Domesday entry for what may have been Lisson greene in a section devoted to Marylebone. Not much help on exact location.

Marylebone - MDX ENG
OS Grid Reference: 51

Paul Brewster  •  Link

Extract from an email from Roger (Arbor)
I thought we had sorted that this was just north of Westminster... these days still in the Westminter 'local government' area. Where now the Regent's Canel runs.....

The Regent's Canal connects Paddington to Limehouse Basin in London's Docklands via Camden, Islington, Hackney and Mile End. The Westminster section runs around the north side of Regent's Park, opposite the zoo. The canal runs through a tunnel between Edgware Road and Lisson Grove.

The easiest way to reach the towing path from Lisson Grove is via the path through the Lisson Green Estate along the south side of the canal and a footbridge just to the west of the railway lines. The Regent's Canal is to become one of the GLA

Second Reading

Bill  •  Link

Lisson Grove, Marylebone Road to Grove Road, St. John's Wood, borrowed its name from the manor of Lisson Green. "Lissham Green," says Dodsley, 1761, "a pleasant village near Paddington." The pleasant village, and even the memory of it, has long passed away, and Lisson Grove is a part of the great metropolis. The manor of Lisson Green, then the property of Captain Lloyd, was sold in lots in 1792.
---London, Past and Present. H.B. Wheatley, 1891.

Terry Foreman  •  Link

Lisson Green is described as a hamlet in the Domesday book in 1086, the edges of the settlement defined by the two current Edgware Road stations facing onto Edgware Road or Watling Street as it was previously known, one of the main Roman thoroughfares in and out of London. Occasionally referred to as Lissom Grove, originally Lisson Grove was part of the medieval manor of Lilestone which stretched as far as Hampstead. Lisson Green as a manor broke away c. 1236 with its own manor house. Paddington Green formed part of the original Lilestone estate

One of Lisson Green village's first attractions would have been the Yorkshire Stingo, a public house probably visited by Samuel Pepys in 1666 on a visit with a flirtatious widow. Stingo was the name of a particular Yorkshire ale.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lis…

Terry Foreman  •  Link

Lisson — or, more properly, Lileston—Grove, occupying the site of what was once Lisson Green, is thus mentioned by Lysons, in his "Environs of London:"—"The manor of Lilestone, containing five hides (now Lisson Green, in the parish of Marylebone), is mentioned in Doomsday-book among the lands of Ossulston Hundred, given in alms. . . . . This manor became the property of the priory of St. John of Jerusalem; on the suppression of which it was granted, anno 1548, to Thomas Heneage and Lord Willoughby, who conveyed it in the same year to Edward, Duke of Somerset. On his attainder it reverted to the Crown, and was granted, anno 1564, to Edward Downing, who conveyed it the same year to John Milner, Esq., then lessee under the Crown. After the death of his descendant, John Milner, Esq., anno 1753, it passed under his will to William Lloyd, Esq. The manor of Lisson Green (being then the property of Captain Lloyd, of the Guards) was sold in lots, anno 1792. The largest lot, containing the site of the manor, was purchased by John Harcourt, Esq., M.P."
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/…

ann henderson  •  Link

There's a will of Benjamin Tucker 1830 surveyor general of the Duchy, who lived at Tremarton Castle, Saltash. He claims to own lands at Lisson Green. National Archives or Ancestry.co.uk.

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