vincent on 11 Apr 2004  •  Link

the English flagship 'Royal Prince', 85 guns, this might the one of 1612?
A peak into 1666.
http://www.nmm.ac.uk/mag/pages/mn…'&ID=BHC0286
no listing of ship in the 1651 lists at
http://pc-78-120.udac.se/Nautica/…
not sure same ship.
built 1624 ?Prince 1200 tons 55 pieces of ordinance made up of 2 canon petro, 6 demi cannon,12 culvines,18 demi culverines, 13 sakers, 4 port pieces.

Prince Royal Peter Pett I, Woolwich 1641 Rebuilt in 1663 no sizes mentioned

1624 list http://pc-78-120.udac.se/Nautica/…
"A List of all the Ships, Frigates, and other Vessels belonging to the State's Navy, on 1st March, 1651.*

vincent on 11 Apr 2004  •  Link

update: Building the Prince Royal, the largest ship that had ever been constructed in England. She weighed 1400 tons and carried 64 guns. Other shipbuilders disapproved of her unique structure, but Pett had the support of James I and particularly Prince Henry, who was on board when she was launched.
http://www.portcities.org.uk/lond…

Pedro on 12 Jul 2006  •  Link

The demise of The Prince and Lord Sandwich...

Antonia Fraser, King Charles II...

"June 7th 1673, lying in Southwold Bay, off the East Anglia coast between Yarmouth and Lowestoft, the combined squadrons were surprised by the great Dutch Admiral De Ruyter. In the ensuing action both sides endured great losses. On the English side, the Duke of York had to abandon two successive flagships, the Prince and the St.Michael. Lord Sandwich was killed; his body, drifting anonymously in the sea was only recognised by the George it still wore, the insignia of the Garter."

Pedro on 6 Jan 2008  •  Link

The Prince.

Vincent’s above links do not now work, but it looks like the Royal Prince/Prince Royal was rebuilt as Sam says…

to see “The Prince” launched, which hath lain in the Dock in repairing these three years. I went into her and was launched in her.

http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1…

It appears that it is now known as the Prince and is in Sandwich’s fleet list of April 1665 as 1st rate and 86 guns with Roger Cuttance as Captain.

cy on 30 Jun 2008  •  Link

The Prince Royal was

Launched in 1610 as a 55 gun ship
Rebuilt in 1641 as a 70 gun ship - later an 80
renamed RESOLUTION in 1649
renamed Prince Royal in 1660 and broken up to rebuild
1663 relaunched as a 92 gun ship
1660 lost at the four days battle (she was the
flagship of Sir George Ayscue)

see HTTP://3decks.pbwiki.com/hbms+roy… and follow the links for the othre versions

Pedro on 30 Jun 2008  •  Link

1660 lost at the four days battle

I think this should read 1666.

Michael Robinson on 2 Jul 2008  •  Link

Images of The Royal Prince

Willem van de Velde, the Younger, executed 1666 or later
The surrender of the 'Royal Prince', 3-13 June 1666 (PAH3879)
http://www.nmm.ac.uk/collections/…

Pieter Cornelisz van Soest, executed c. 1666
The Four Days Fight, 1-4 June 1666 (BHC0284)
http://www.nmm.ac.uk/collections/…
"On the right-hand side of the painting, an English ship with a blue ensign, in starboard-quarter view, is surrendering and to her right the English 'Royal Prince', 85 guns, in starboard-quarter view, and another ship of her squadron following her are fighting it out with the Dutch Lieutenant-Admiral Cornelis Evertsen senior on the 'Walcheren', 68 guns, and Vice-Admiral Adrianne Banckert on the 'Tholen', 60 guns."

Terry Foreman on 13 Mar 2010  •  Link

HMS Royal Prince (1610)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_…

San Diego Sarah on 11 Dec 2020  •  Link

At 17 [he was born c. 1650, so this could be any time during the second Anglo-Dutch war, the future Admiral] Cloudesley Shovell became a midshipman on the Royal Prince, the flagship of the Duke of York. Highly capable and well liked, he saw action from his teens on and his family cherished a story of him as a boy swimming under enemy fire carrying dispatches in his mouth.

For more on the Adm. http://www.historytoday.com/richa…

San Diego Sarah on 17 Nov 2021  •  Link

A picture of The Prince, the flagship of the Navy in 1672, hangs in the Queen's House, Greenwich. Apparently on June 6 Charles II and Lord High Admiral James visited the fleet in the Thames Estuary. The picture also shows the Royal yachts Catherine and Cleveland.

Reading the annotations above, it is unclear to me if this was the ship Pepys knew. But a 17th century warship is a warship is a warship, right?

This article is about the renovations being performed on the masterpiece, with some great photos. Dig around ... you'll find some interesting things:
https://www.rmg.co.uk/stories/top…

Charles Miller on 2 Nov 2023  •  Link

Better still is the Admiralty Board model of Prince, held in store by the Science Museum, London: https://collection.sciencemuseumg…

This is highy accurate in scale and even the carved work, likely made by a talented shipwright at the yard. Let’s hope they put it back on public view one day.