Malone has successfully proved that Charlecote the park of Sir Thomas Lucy whence Shakespeare is said to have stolen deer did not exist as a park in the poet's time The Lucys determined not to lose the honour of being robbed by the poet have since shifted the locality. ---Traditionary anecdotes of Shakespeare. J. Dowdall, 1838.
One recurring theme through the annotations will be references to a 1930's children's book, The Heir of Charlecote. By 1665 I couldn't stand it any more, broke down and bought a copy -- and have since shared it with several friends. They don't write children's books like that any more. It's a 1600-ish adventure story about a young boy by the name of Lucy -- probably this Tom Lucy's grandfather.
The Heir of Charlecote is by Mark Dallow, available at www.abebooks.com .
A Thomas Lucy of Charlecote came to my attention in December 1665:
Charles II and Barbara Villiers Palmer, Countess of Castlemaine’s third son, George Fitzroy, Duke of Northumberland, in March 1686 clandestinely married a great beauty, Catherine, the daughter of Robert Wheatley (a poulterer of Bracknell, Berkshire), and widow of Thomas Lucy of Charlecote, a captain in the Royal Horse Guards.
George, Duke of Northumberland appears to have regretted this lowly marriage and is said to have attempted to privately convey her abroad to an English convent in Ghent.
After Catherine Wheatley Lucy FitzRoy, Countess of Northumberland’s death in 1714, George Fitzroy remarried, within the year, Mary, the sister of Captain Mark Dutton.
The Duke died, without legitimate issue, suddenly at Epsom on 28 June 1716.
LUCY, Thomas (c.1655-84), of Charlecote Park, Warws. https://www.historyofparliamenton… Catherine, the daughter of Robert Wheatley (a poulterer of Bracknell, Berkshire), was his widow, who ran off with George Fitzroy.
Confusingly the Thomas Lucy of Charlecote Park whom the Pepys knew in the early months of 1660, was obviously an adult and already in the Guards. So he must have been an uncle or older cousin to this Thomas.
"... the Thomas Lucy of Charlecote Park whom the Pepys knew in the early months of 1660, was obviously an adult and already in the Guards. So he must have been an uncle or older cousin to this Thomas."
Meaning the Parliamentary bio leads me to disagree with L&M.
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Terry Foreman • Link
Thomas Lucy. Soldier; commissioned captain 1666, 1678-9, 1679. He succeeded to Charlecote in 1677. (L&M Companion)
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Bill • Link
Malone has successfully proved that Charlecote the park of Sir Thomas Lucy whence Shakespeare is said to have stolen deer did not exist as a park in the poet's time The Lucys determined not to lose the honour of being robbed by the poet have since shifted the locality.
---Traditionary anecdotes of Shakespeare. J. Dowdall, 1838.
San Diego Sarah • Link
One recurring theme through the annotations will be references to a 1930's children's book, The Heir of Charlecote. By 1665 I couldn't stand it any more, broke down and bought a copy -- and have since shared it with several friends. They don't write children's books like that any more. It's a 1600-ish adventure story about a young boy by the name of Lucy -- probably this Tom Lucy's grandfather.
The Heir of Charlecote is by Mark Dallow, available at www.abebooks.com .
San Diego Sarah • Link
A Thomas Lucy of Charlecote came to my attention in December 1665:
Charles II and Barbara Villiers Palmer, Countess of Castlemaine’s third son, George Fitzroy, Duke of Northumberland, in March 1686 clandestinely married a great beauty, Catherine, the daughter of Robert Wheatley (a poulterer of Bracknell, Berkshire), and widow of Thomas Lucy of Charlecote, a captain in the Royal Horse Guards.
George, Duke of Northumberland appears to have regretted this lowly marriage and is said to have attempted to privately convey her abroad to an English convent in Ghent.
After Catherine Wheatley Lucy FitzRoy, Countess of Northumberland’s death in 1714, George Fitzroy remarried, within the year, Mary, the sister of Captain Mark Dutton.
The Duke died, without legitimate issue, suddenly at Epsom on 28 June 1716.
For more about George Fitzroy, see:
http://www.berkshirehistory.com/b…
San Diego Sarah • Link
Four of the Lucy family connected with Charlecote Park were members of Parliament in the 17th century:
LUCY, Richard (c.1619-77), of Charlecote Park, Warws.
https://www.historyofparliamenton…
LUCY, Sir Fulk (c.1623-77), of Henbury, Cheshire.
https://www.historyofparliamenton…
LUCY, Sir Kingsmill, 2nd Bt. (c.1650-78), of Faccombe, Hants and Great Newport Street, Westminster.
https://www.historyofparliamenton…
LUCY, Thomas (c.1655-84), of Charlecote Park, Warws.
https://www.historyofparliamenton…
Catherine, the daughter of Robert Wheatley (a poulterer of Bracknell, Berkshire), was his widow, who ran off with George Fitzroy.
Confusingly the Thomas Lucy of Charlecote Park whom the Pepys knew in the early months of 1660, was obviously an adult and already in the Guards. So he must have been an uncle or older cousin to this Thomas.
San Diego Sarah • Link
"... the Thomas Lucy of Charlecote Park whom the Pepys knew in the early months of 1660, was obviously an adult and already in the Guards. So he must have been an uncle or older cousin to this Thomas."
Meaning the Parliamentary bio leads me to disagree with L&M.