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Charles Miller has posted 21 annotations/comments since 10 August 2023.

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About Tuesday 10 December 1661

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"to my Lord Crew’s by coach, and in my way had a stop of above an hour and a half, "

The odd thing here is that Whitehall to Lincoln’s Inn is a half hour walk, nothing to SP who frequently walks much further. He doesn’t say he was wearing particularly fine clothes or mention rain, so one wonders why he stuck it out so stubbornly for such a short trip…

About Monday 25 November 1661

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Mrs Mary Archer - what became of her husband, what was her maiden name, and assuming Archer was her married name, is Robert an uncle related to her late husband and not by blood to herself? Just a bit confused..

About Friday 1 November 1661

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Medals: these were probably medallions, they were struck in gold, silver and bronze to commemorate significant victories in battle in land or at sea or a significant event (coronations) or person, and were an early form of “Collectable”, Elizabeth I had one struck to commemorate Britains victory over the Armada in 1588 - https://images.app.goo.gl/tPAw5jv…

About Saturday 5 October 1661

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San Diego Sarah is correct - and my apologies for leading JB down an alley, it is the 1675 Royal James represented by the model on loan to Peabody. This is also the model that Pepys loaned to St Paul’s school and was deeply miffed by the way the boys treated it! Latterly it was in the RUSI museum but went missing for 70 years or so before being found in a locked chest!

About Tuesday 8 October 1661

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Parson Woodforde had an annual “frolic” for his Tennant farmers at his parsonage in Weston Longville, Norfolk throughout the 1780s-90s. It’s basically a massive annual party to thank them for the tithes and rents as he lays on several barrels of beer and wine, feeds them well with sides of beef etc. and clearly makes a good night of it. A frolic or frolique is what we might call a “jolly” today, a bit fun for the sake of it.

About Saturday 5 October 1661

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Ref Vincent’s comments 6.10.2004 “the model [of Royal James] has not survived”

I’m happy to report that it does survive - but was only rediscovered around the time he wrote that. It’s now beautifully restored and on loan to the Peabody Essex in the US - correctly rigged and with gilt carved work. I tried to find a link but failed.

About 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, 13th July 1661

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“much troubled with my aunt’s base, ugly humours.”

I wonder if she had a UTI (urinary tract infection); I encountered one of these in my aged mother in law whose cogent sensible character was transformed into something a little mad and which in ‘ye olde days’ would have been left as such - happily this was correctly diagnosed and some pills restored her in a matter of hours, as amazing as it was striking..

About John Holland

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The church provided some more info on this Rector:

1654/1661-1665 John Holland (lived 1626?-1690)
John was born around 1626 and became rector of St. Mary’s in 1650 and rector of Holy
Trinity in 1661, or probably from 1654, in the confusing years of the Commonwealth. He
was also rector of Albury from 1667-1691. In 1661 he noted in the parish register that he had
received the book from the churchwardens in April 1661, after the changes during the
Commonwealth. So he was perhaps already in post. He resigned from Holy Trinity in 1665.
He must have had curates helping him.
He was made master of Abbot’s Hospital in 1655 as well as being rector of the two churches,
and was very active in sorting out George Abbot’s manufacturing charity, which was not
working as intended. He also borrowed money from the charity to build a wall around the
rectory garden, which he paid back in 1663. He would have been born around 1630, so was
far too young to be master of the hospital, who should have been at least fifty. He had
married in the late 1650s, which again, was not allowed. His first wife died in 1660, three
8
months after giving birth to their first child Barbara, who died a few weeks later. In 1662 he
married Honour Westbrook of Stoke. Two sons called John died young, but three daughters
survived: Elizabeth, Honoria and Ann. All these entries were in the Holy Trinity registers,
rather than St. Mary’s. The family were presumably living in Abbot’s Hospital, which was
certainly more up-to-date than the medieval rectory.
Holland came from a landed family in Gloucestershire, and his will shows that he was
wealthy. He died in 1691, leaving books, money, rings and pictures to his daughters. He
asked to be buried in the chancel of Holy Trinity, with his wives and children.

About Saturday 6 April 1661

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Renewed link for petticoat breeches - it’s easy to see how Mr Townsend fell victim to this fashion! https://images.app.goo.gl/caKGxy8…

With regards to his workmen taking their time, don’t forget these are government workers not paid by SP but probably seconded carpenters from the Deptford DY, and like government workers today, don’t have to exert themselves overly, especially when they’ve found a comfortable number indoors, they’ll spin it out for as long as they can - twas ever thus and is one of the great weaknesses of the State, sadly.

About Wednesday 27 March 1661

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The chance’s are they did dances from John Playfords “The English Dancing Master” where music and dance instructions mainly for progressive longways sets are clearly described, a smash hit, it’s rare to find now, but ran to many editions, starting in 1651, the middle of the Commonwealth which doesn’t sit so well with our assumptions of Puritan behaviour as it wasn’t a secret publication. Well worth a look as some of the titles are a hoot: https://playforddances.com/

About Friday 15 February 1660/61

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Just to update SPs value, according to the Bank of England’s historical converter, £350 in 1660 is worth £57,915.47 as at January 2024.

About Wednesday 2 January 1660/61

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I’m inclined to be a little more generous to Pall, ‘though I didn’t know about the scissors or book, were they stolen (and hidden away) or just borrowed without permission for instance. Certainly it was common for unmarried females to become semi-servants in middling class households and I see parallels with Parson Woodforde whose niece acted as housekeeper until he died although she was certainly at his table she was also in the kitchen. Her main “complaint” was probably as I suspect Palls was, a vibrant young woman rusticating in rural England without much prospect of marriage: too well born to be a laborers wife and too low to be gentry, a true middle class dilemma which must have been incredibly frustrating - living with elderly parents with no company of your own age, it must have been like living on Mars, no wonder she grew rebellious by her early 20’s, most women had started large families of their own by then.. She had my sympathy but SP is behaving perfectly correctly.

About Monday 31 December 1666

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https://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/…

A small point re Larry Bunce’s assertion that SPs £6200 would be worth £8.9m in 2010, according to the historic currency converter at Kew, £6200 in 1670 (the nearst year that can be selected) would be worth £705,426.70 in 2017, the present cut off year for the converter, a far more plausible sum..

About Friday 30 November 1660

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The barrel in this instance would, I think, be similar to a costrel - a small portable container in use until the 19th century, and would probably contain 24-30 oysters, so enough to share as a mid-morning snack with office colleagues, perhaps 3-4 each. What I don’t know is whether the barrel was bought or returned.. SP mentions them so often, what did he do with them?

About The Royal Prince

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Better still is the Admiralty Board model of Prince, held in store by the Science Museum, London: https://collection.sciencemuseumg…

This is highy accurate in scale and even the carved work, likely made by a talented shipwright at the yard. Let’s hope they put it back on public view one day.

About Tuesday 28 August 1660

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According to the Bank of England, 2/6 in 1660 equates to about £20.59 today - but in 1955 was only the equivalent of £2.69 which, assuming they’ve kept it pre-decimal might not be too far off, but I wasn’t around to judge….

About Thursday 23 August 1660

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I wonder if if could be one of a choice depending on taste and availability - chocolate was becoming available in the right places, and warmed milk with nutmeg or honey are also referenced elsewhere in the diary.

About Thursday 16 August 1660

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I was on a group visit to Boston and environs this May, the tipping culture is almost aggressive, expected for the smallest service. The payment machines suggest three levels of tip, which are then taxed along with the rest of the bill. The rather gruff coach driver apparently expected a tip north of $1000 for his three part days work - he didn’t get it, but still had one I’d call generous. Contrast this to France where the opposite has occurrd and tipping is disappearing..