"A [1914] view of Platform Wharf and Cherry Garden Pier....In Stuart times Rotherhithe was famous for the Cherry Gardens, a recreational area where Londoners often went to relax on Saturday afternoons. Samuel Pepys records visiting the area to buy cherries for his wife in his famous diary. While the Cherry Gardens are gone, a recent initiative has seen cherry trees replanted in the area." http://www.portcities.org.uk/lond…
Cherry Garden Pier south of The Pool on the Thames at the left side of this 2003 map is where Cherry Garden Stairs were in Stuart times. http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap…
A pleasure-garden at Rotherhithe or Redriffe accessed by the Cherry Garden Stairs still in 1746 in the lower right corner of this map: http://www.motco.com/map/81002/Se…
Interesting and not surprising that the Navy Office doorkeeper, William Griffith, intended that our congenial man be godfather of his son. The Office patronage of Thomas by the officers still in London that I take it Sir J. Mennes envisions is perhaps appropriate, given what glimpses we've had of his father's service.
How common would multiple, unrelated godparents be? Could the Anglican liturgy of 1662 accommodate Sir J. Mennes's scenario? (I'm guessing "probably.")
A domestic PM, after a long morning spent studying shipbuilding.
Are we to gather that Sir J. Mennes (sic) wants to be no less godfather than Pepys -- so two of them; that Lady Batten was to be Thomas Griffith's godmother; that Mennes sought an "other" (alter) for her; and that Elżbieta nominated herself; etc.?
Absent Dirk: the letter Robert Gertz mentioned in a post for 6 June.
Admiral Sir William Penn to Lane Written from: Portsmouth Dock
Date: 11 June 1664
Shelfmark: MS. Carte 33, fol(s). 407 Document type: Original
Has been now, for a month past, employed by special command of the Duke of York [at Portsmouth] in the outfit of some ships for sea. ...
Entreat's Lane's support for his, the writer's, suit to the Duke of Ormond, that before his Grace shall consent to move the King for the restoration to their respective estates, in the county of Cork, of Poore of Inchy, and of Poore, of Shanegarry, the writer may have a hearing from his Grace upon that question. ... http://www.bodley.ox.ac.uk/dept/s…
--- Admiral Penn has not been quite as busy as, for rhetorical purpose, he makes out. Actually, this is day 22 that Sir W, Penn has been "employed...in the outfit of some ships for sea," but it may also seem like a month. http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1…
"and one from their East India Company, to treat with ours"
Yes, RG, peculiar by our standards, if you and I take the matters of company and nation-state agency to have been worked out otherwise in the 343 intervening years than do the actors from Haliburton and Blackwater, e.g..
In the 1664 case there is surely the Dutch understanding that the merchants -- in Guinea and in Parliament -- are at least in cahoots with the throne.
"Can anyone else remember an instance of SP voluntarily handing over cash?"
I did not, but a search for "gave" yielded this sole recent holiday occasion:
19 December 1663 "Thence by coach to my shoemaker's and paid all there, and gave something to the boys' box against Christmas." http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1…
June. 5, God good to us in outward mercies, my family recovering more health(.) the war with Holland proceeds. the King abused by infamous pictures. for which lewd courses give occasion, the lord remember afflicted christendom(,) but men are troubled to see their evil represented to them, though they glory and boast among their likes in the doing of it. http://linux02.lib.cam.ac.uk/earl…
Copy of a letter from Christopher Wren to Lord Brouncker
Dr Christopher Wrens letter to the Lord Brounker President of the Royal Society About Experiments for his Majesty's Reception [July:30:1663] http://www.livesandletters.ac.uk/…
Royal Society - Drafts of two letters by William Brouncker, 03-09-1662
William Brouncker became President of the Royal Society following the granting of a Royal Charter in the summer of 1662. Among his first duties were those of offering thanks to: # the king for granting the chartertranscriptimage and transcriptimage # Sir Robert Moray, his predecessor as president, for his part in securing it http://www.livesandletters.ac.uk/…
Comments
First Reading
About Cherries
Terry F • Link
Cherry
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cher…
About Farthingales
Terry F • Link
Farthingale (well-illustrated)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fart…
About Monday 13 June 1664
Terry F • Link
"writing of the History of the late Dutch warr...sorts mightily with my genius"
Pepys identifies his pigeon-hole.
About Cherry Garden, Greenwich
Terry F • Link
"A [1914] view of Platform Wharf and Cherry Garden Pier....In Stuart times Rotherhithe was famous for the Cherry Gardens, a recreational area where Londoners often went to relax on Saturday afternoons. Samuel Pepys records visiting the area to buy cherries for his wife in his famous diary. While the Cherry Gardens are gone, a recent initiative has seen cherry trees replanted in the area." http://www.portcities.org.uk/lond…
About Cherry Garden, Greenwich
Terry F • Link
Cherry Garden Pier south of The Pool on the Thames at the left side of this 2003 map is where Cherry Garden Stairs were in Stuart times. http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap…
About Cherry Garden, Greenwich
Terry F • Link
A pleasure-garden at Rotherhithe or Redriffe accessed by the Cherry Garden Stairs still in 1746 in the lower right corner of this map: http://www.motco.com/map/81002/Se…
About Monday 13 June 1664
Terry F • Link
"rate"
berate, scold (L&M Select glossary)
"hare"
harry, rebuke (L&M Select glossary)
About Sunday 12 June 1664
Terry F • Link
Interesting and not surprising that the Navy Office doorkeeper, William Griffith, intended that our congenial man be godfather of his son. The Office patronage of Thomas by the officers still in London that I take it Sir J. Mennes envisions is perhaps appropriate, given what glimpses we've had of his father's service.
How common would multiple, unrelated godparents be? Could the Anglican liturgy of 1662 accommodate Sir J. Mennes's scenario? (I'm guessing "probably.")
About Sunday 12 June 1664
Terry F • Link
A domestic PM, after a long morning spent studying shipbuilding.
Are we to gather that Sir J. Mennes (sic) wants to be no less godfather than Pepys -- so two of them; that Lady Batten was to be Thomas Griffith's godmother; that Mennes sought an "other" (alter) for her; and that Elżbieta nominated herself; etc.?
About Saturday 11 June 1664
Terry F • Link
Absent Dirk: the letter Robert Gertz mentioned in a post for 6 June.
Admiral Sir William Penn to Lane
Written from: Portsmouth Dock
Date: 11 June 1664
Shelfmark: MS. Carte 33, fol(s). 407
Document type: Original
Has been now, for a month past, employed by special command of the Duke of York [at Portsmouth] in the outfit of some ships for sea. ...
Entreat's Lane's support for his, the writer's, suit to the Duke of Ormond, that before his Grace shall consent to move the King for the restoration to their respective estates, in the county of Cork, of Poore of Inchy, and of Poore, of Shanegarry, the writer may have a hearing from his Grace upon that question. ... http://www.bodley.ox.ac.uk/dept/s…
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Admiral Penn has not been quite as busy as, for rhetorical purpose, he makes out. Actually, this is day 22 that Sir W, Penn has been "employed...in the outfit of some ships for sea," but it may also seem like a month. http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1…
About Saturday 11 June 1664
Terry F • Link
"and one from their East India Company, to treat with ours"
Yes, RG, peculiar by our standards, if you and I take the matters of company and nation-state agency to have been worked out otherwise in the 343 intervening years than do the actors from Haliburton and Blackwater, e.g..
In the 1664 case there is surely the Dutch understanding that the merchants -- in Guinea and in Parliament -- are at least in cahoots with the throne.
About Sir Anthony Ashley Cooper (Baron Ashley, Chancellor of the Exchequer)
Terry F • Link
Anthony Ashley-Cooper, 1st Earl of Shaftesbury
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anth…
About Friday 10 June 1664
Terry F • Link
"abroad to buy several things, as a map, and powder, and other small things"
Map of what? (We are usually told.) Powder for the periwigg? That the other things are "small things" strikes me as curiously specific.
About Thursday 9 June 1664
Terry F • Link
"Can anyone else remember an instance of SP voluntarily handing over cash?"
I did not, but a search for "gave" yielded this sole recent holiday occasion:
19 December 1663
"Thence by coach to my shoemaker's and paid all there, and gave something to the boys' box against Christmas." http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1…
About Mr Becke (b)
Terry F • Link
Joseph Beck of Little Chelsea, reason L&M; father of Betty Becke, Sandwich's mistress http://www.pepysdiary.com/encyclo…
His wife is well-described here http://www.pepysdiary.com/encyclo…
About Betty Becke
Terry F • Link
Sandwich's mistress, who lived at (Little) Chelsea; probably daughter of Mr. (Joseph) Beck http://www.pepysdiary.com/encyclo… and the Mrs Beck described here. http://www.pepysdiary.com/encyclo…
About Sunday 5 June 1664
Terry F • Link
Reverend Ralph Josselin
June. 5, God good to us in outward mercies, my family recovering more health(.) the war with Holland proceeds. the King abused by infamous pictures. for which lewd courses give occasion, the lord remember afflicted christendom(,) but men are troubled to see their evil represented to them, though they glory and boast among their likes in the doing of it. http://linux02.lib.cam.ac.uk/earl…
"the King abused by infamous pictures" cp. Danish cartoons of Muhammad? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jyll…
About Thursday 30 July 1663
Terry F • Link
Copy of a letter from Christopher Wren to Lord Brouncker
Dr Christopher Wrens letter to the Lord Brounker President of the Royal Society About Experiments for his Majesty's Reception [July:30:1663]
http://www.livesandletters.ac.uk/…
About Wednesday 8 April 1663
Terry F • Link
Extract from a letter about Potato cultivation sent to Robert Boyle
An Extract of a letter about Potatos written to Mr Boyle and read in the [Royal] Society April.8.1663 http://www.livesandletters.ac.uk/…
About Wednesday 3 September 1662
Terry F • Link
Royal Society - Drafts of two letters by William Brouncker, 03-09-1662
William Brouncker became President of the Royal Society following the granting of a Royal Charter in the summer of 1662. Among his first duties were those of offering thanks to:
# the king for granting the chartertranscriptimage and transcriptimage
# Sir Robert Moray, his predecessor as president, for his part in securing it
http://www.livesandletters.ac.uk/…