Thinks that (Edward Mountagu, son of Sandwich, Viscount) Lord Hinchinbroke's passionate fondness for music may "be one of the reasons which keep him from reading of books, and having that curiosity for the knowledge of History, which he hath for all honest things besides". In a conversation with the Venetian Ambassador at this Court, the other evening, when the talk turned upon horsemanship, the Venetian observed that a man of quality, of earlier date than my Lord of Newcastle, had treated of that topic, - namely Xenophon; upon which Lord Hinchinbroke asked, 'who is Xenophon?'.
Encloses
Household-account, of expenditure, at Paris, for Lord Hinchinbroke, and Mr Sydney Montagu
Gives an account of the studies and character of the Earl's son [Edward]. Says, of Lord Hinchinbroke: His "mind is noble & generous. He loveth to be praised and esteemed; hearkeneth to admonition; ruleth himself. He only wants confidence, to declare himself, & shew his parts". http://www.bodley.ox.ac.uk/dept/s…
Edward in Paris is to his father, Lord Sandwich, as John Pepys in Cambridge is to his older brother Samuel.
"a busy Sunday not much different from a regular work day" indeed, -- well maybe busier than most, because preparation for war is cranking up fast: Stations, all!! When offered the choice of where to be for the "launch," Pepys decides to be the Navy Office Officer monitoring his usual London haunts -- Woolwich and Deptford -- which he promptly patrols.
"As a London merchant-lawyer, Thomas Povey by about 1664-1666 was surveyor-general of the Victualling Dept., and by then he had already been interested as a [Charles Howard, 1st Earl of] Carlisle place-man in deals concerning West Indian islands....Povey was a barrister of Gray's Inn and a merchant with widespread interests, "well-known for exerting his influence". His brother Richard was secretary and commissary general of provisions at Jamaica; another brother was William Povey, provost marshal at Barbados." http://www.danbyrnes.com.au/busin…
Thomas Povey was one of the great merchants in whose career may be traced "[t]he history of the interlocking directorates in the companies of expansion and in the political control of empire...." Root, Winfred T., "The Lords of Trade and Plantations, 1675-1696." http://www.dinsdoc.com/root-1.htm
Hugh Peters [or Peter] (June, 1598 - October 16, 1660), English, a preacher, was the son of Thomas Dyckwoode, alias Peters, descended from a family which had left the Netherlands to escape religious persecution http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh…
Povey, wealthy merchant-lawyer (barrister of Gray's Inn) was perhaps "agreeable" on the many commissions on which he sat, but I doubt that the wheeler-dealer in Caribbean resources was "credulous": he seems to have had far too much on his plate, and may have had too many large numbers in his head. See Root, Winfred T., "The Lords of Trade and Plantations, 1675-1696." American Historical Review 23 (October 1917): 20-41. http://www.dinsdoc.com/root-1.htm
I take it the "miracle" Pepys reports is a "wonder" or "astonishment" and "unexpected," not quite yet David Hume's "violation of the laws of nature"! http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mo…
"But strange it is that this man should, from the greatest negligence in the world, come to be the miracle of attendance....about the Queene. Insomuch that he was observed as a miracle..., the world concluding that there must be something more than ordinary to cause him to do this."
And so Ned is perceived to her as John Brown later to Queen Victoria, as though Catherine were supposing (imagining?) her negligent husband dead.
"being fallen again to business, and I hope my health will give me leave to follow it."
God bless Pepys's resolve, given his recent "Sicke" day in great pain and its costive sequelae. It's a good thing he apparently knows not that this was a battle with a stone! His Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder extends the experience of Ye [Bladder] Stone to the other discomforts of his innards.
The Diary of Samuel Pepys, OR, The Chronicle of His Gastro-Intestinal Tract. Today he had a "pretty good stool..., and broke wind also." AHhhhhhhhhh.
Martin's find, "The Little Gidding Cabinet," is also a commentary on what has become of the Stuarts. The cabinet was Charles I's, tradition has it, the page says, "left...for safekeeping" with the religious community in Huntingdonshire "which devoted itself to prayer, fasting and almsgiving" -- not the preoccupations of or prized by his son, as RG so nicely dramatizes. (We have a winnah!)
"a very wakening letter" -- lovely description of Pepys's rousing -- "from Mr. Coventry about fitting of ships, which speaks something like to be done," -- welcome unwelcome pre-war work-to-be-done words -- "I went forth to the office, there to take order in things" -- and so sallies forth the Naval Office's Action Officer.
Against dissident politics under cover of religion
The Conventicle Act of 1664 was passed by Parliament today, nemine contradicente.
"The Conventicle Act of 1664 was an Act of the Parliament of England (16 Charles II c. 4) that forbade religious assemblies of more than five people outside the auspices of the Church of England. This law was part of the programme of Edward Hyde, 1st Earl of Clarendon, to discourage nonconformism and to strengthen the position of the Established Church. These prohibitions led many, such as the Covenanters, to vacate their parishes rather than submit to the new Episcopal authorities. Just as the ministers left so too did the congregations, following their old pastors to sermons on the hillside. From small beginnings these field assemblies-or conventicles-were to grow into major problems of public order for the government." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conv…
The cost of non-conformity limned by Speaker of H.C.
"....Fanatics, Sectaries, and Non-conformists....are no Friends to the established Government either in Church or State; and if the old Rule hold true, Qui Ecclesia contradicit non est pacificus, we have great Reason to prevent their Growth, and to punish their Practice. To this Purpose, we have prepared a Bill against their frequenting of Conventicles, the Seed-plots and Nurseries of their Opinions, under Pretence of Religious Worship. The First Offence we have made punishable only with a small Fine of Five Pounds, or Three Months Imprisonment, and Ten Pounds for a Peer. The Second Offence with Ten Pounds, or Six Months Imprisonment, and Twenty Pounds for a Peer. But for the Third Offence, after a Trial by a Jury at the General Quarter Sessions or Assizes, and the Trial of a Peer by his Peers, the Party convicted shall be transported to some of Your Majesty's Foreign Plantations, unless he redeem himself by laying down One Hundred Pounds: Immedicabile Vulnus Ense rescindendum, ne Pars sincera trabatur."
From: 'House of Lords Journal Volume 11: 17 May 1664', Journal of the House of Lords: volume 11: 1660-1666, pp. 619-21. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/… Date accessed: 17 May 2007.
"not yet breaking any great store of wind, which I wonder at, for I cannot be well till I do do it."
Evidently indeed a vital sign. As careful he is of his health, I imagine Pepys checking it daily, normally without reflection, quickly analyzing the "wind" for quantity and certain qualities (direction, velocity...ah, sorry).
cumsallygrano calls our attention to the "Proviso against those People commonly called Quakers" in the "Bill against seditious Conventicles." It touches the good Sir W. Penn, whose son, William, was, of course, one...well, you know the story. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will…
eerie c.1300, north England and Scot. variant of O.E. earg "cowardly, fearful," from P.Gmc. *argaz (cf. O.N. argr "unmanly, voluptuous," Swed. arg "malicious," Ger. arg "bad, wicked"). Sense of "causing fear because of strangeness" is first attested 1792. http://www.etymonline.com/index.p…
Paul, your question -- "Wonder what might have happened to her" -- is appropriate for a woman of whom it is said "She holds her complexion still...."
(Draft-versions of the "sharp act against coventicles" have been passed in both Houses of Parliament, which have been granted an extension for a Conference to complete it. There is also the matter of his daughter's health.)
Comments
First Reading
About Friday 8 April 1664
Terry F • Link
In the absence of Dirk
De Prata to Sandwich
Written from: Paris
Date: 8 April 1664
Shelfmark: MS. Carte 223, fol(s). 83-84
Document type: [with seal of arms]
Thinks that (Edward Mountagu, son of Sandwich, Viscount) Lord Hinchinbroke's passionate fondness for music may "be one of the reasons which keep him from reading of books, and having that curiosity for the knowledge of History, which he hath for all honest things besides". In a conversation with the Venetian Ambassador at this Court, the other evening, when the talk turned upon horsemanship, the Venetian observed that a man of quality, of earlier date than my Lord of Newcastle, had treated of that topic, - namely Xenophon; upon which Lord Hinchinbroke asked, 'who is Xenophon?'.
Encloses
Household-account, of expenditure, at Paris, for Lord Hinchinbroke, and Mr Sydney Montagu
Date: April 1664
Shelfmark: MS. Carte 223, fol(s). 85-87
http://www.bodley.ox.ac.uk/dept/s…
Edward Montagu is to his father, Lord Sandwich, as John Pepys is to his older brother Samuel.
About Sunday 3 April 1664
Terry F • Link
In Dirk's absence
De Prata to Sandwich
Written from: [Paris]
Date: 3/13 April 1664
Shelfmark: MS. Carte 223, fol(s). 81-82
Gives an account of the studies and character of the Earl's son [Edward]. Says, of Lord Hinchinbroke: His "mind is noble & generous. He loveth to be praised and esteemed; hearkeneth to admonition; ruleth himself. He only wants confidence, to declare himself, & shew his parts".
http://www.bodley.ox.ac.uk/dept/s…
Edward in Paris is to his father, Lord Sandwich, as John Pepys in Cambridge is to his older brother Samuel.
About Lamprey
Terry F • Link
Lamprey article with images
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamp…
About Sunday 22 May 1664
Terry F • Link
"a busy Sunday not much different from a regular work day" indeed, -- well maybe busier than most, because preparation for war is cranking up fast: Stations, all!! When offered the choice of where to be for the "launch," Pepys decides to be the Navy Office Officer monitoring his usual London haunts -- Woolwich and Deptford -- which he promptly patrols.
About Thomas Povey
Terry F • Link
"As a London merchant-lawyer, Thomas Povey by about 1664-1666 was surveyor-general of the Victualling Dept., and by then he had already been interested as a [Charles Howard, 1st Earl of] Carlisle place-man in deals concerning West Indian islands....Povey was a barrister of Gray's Inn and a merchant with widespread interests, "well-known for exerting his influence". His brother Richard was secretary and commissary general of provisions at Jamaica; another brother was William Povey, provost marshal at Barbados." http://www.danbyrnes.com.au/busin…
Thomas Povey was one of the great merchants in whose career may be traced "[t]he history of the interlocking directorates in the companies of expansion and in the political control of empire...." Root, Winfred T., "The Lords of Trade and Plantations, 1675-1696." http://www.dinsdoc.com/root-1.htm
About Hugh Peters
Terry F • Link
Hugh Peters [or Peter] (June, 1598 - October 16, 1660), English, a preacher, was the son of Thomas Dyckwoode, alias Peters, descended from a family which had left the Netherlands to escape religious persecution
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh…
About Saturday 21 May 1664
Terry F • Link
Povey, wealthy merchant-lawyer (barrister of Gray's Inn) was perhaps "agreeable" on the many commissions on which he sat, but I doubt that the wheeler-dealer in Caribbean resources was "credulous": he seems to have had far too much on his plate, and may have had too many large numbers in his head. See Root, Winfred T., "The Lords of Trade and Plantations, 1675-1696." American Historical Review 23 (October 1917): 20-41. http://www.dinsdoc.com/root-1.htm
About Saturday 21 May 1664
Terry F • Link
"my Lady Sandwich...looks very thin, poor woman, being mightily broke."
Not a remark on her financial condition, but on her present health, post-pox.
About Friday 20 May 1664
Terry F • Link
Ned's miracle
I take it the "miracle" Pepys reports is a "wonder" or "astonishment" and "unexpected," not quite yet David Hume's "violation of the laws of nature"! http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mo…
"But strange it is that this man should, from the greatest negligence in the world, come to be the miracle of attendance....about the Queene. Insomuch that he was observed as a miracle..., the world concluding that there must be something more than ordinary to cause him to do this."
And so Ned is perceived to her as John Brown later to Queen Victoria, as though Catherine were supposing (imagining?) her negligent husband dead.
About Thursday 19 May 1664
Terry F • Link
"being fallen again to business, and I hope my health will give me leave to follow it."
God bless Pepys's resolve, given his recent "Sicke" day in great pain and its costive sequelae. It's a good thing he apparently knows not that this was a battle with a stone! His Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder extends the experience of Ye [Bladder] Stone to the other discomforts of his innards.
The Diary of Samuel Pepys, OR, The Chronicle of His Gastro-Intestinal Tract.
Today he had a "pretty good stool..., and broke wind also." AHhhhhhhhhh.
About Thursday 19 May 1664
Terry F • Link
Lord Peterborough's accounts
Pepys -- "If it were done when 'tis done, then 'twere well it were done quickly." - Macbeth, 1.7
About Wednesday 18 May 1664
Terry F • Link
Martin's find, "The Little Gidding Cabinet," is also a commentary on what has become of the Stuarts. The cabinet was Charles I's, tradition has it, the page says, "left...for safekeeping" with the religious community in Huntingdonshire "which devoted itself to prayer, fasting and almsgiving" -- not the preoccupations of or prized by his son, as RG so nicely dramatizes. (We have a winnah!)
About Wednesday 18 May 1664
Terry F • Link
Perk for the Clerk*
Capt. John Shales, who sent the "pretty cabinet," is Portsmouth victualling agent. I wonder how much it might have cost?
* This, of course, would not have rhymed in the day.
About Wednesday 18 May 1664
Terry F • Link
"a very wakening letter" -- lovely description of Pepys's rousing -- "from Mr. Coventry
about fitting of ships, which speaks something like to be done," -- welcome unwelcome pre-war work-to-be-done words --
"I went forth to the office, there to take order in things" -- and so sallies forth the Naval Office's Action Officer.
About Tuesday 17 May 1664
Terry F • Link
Against dissident politics under cover of religion
The Conventicle Act of 1664 was passed by Parliament today, nemine contradicente.
"The Conventicle Act of 1664 was an Act of the Parliament of England (16 Charles II c. 4) that forbade religious assemblies of more than five people outside the auspices of the Church of England. This law was part of the programme of Edward Hyde, 1st Earl of Clarendon, to discourage nonconformism and to strengthen the position of the Established Church. These prohibitions led many, such as the Covenanters, to vacate their parishes rather than submit to the new Episcopal authorities. Just as the ministers left so too did the congregations, following their old pastors to sermons on the hillside. From small beginnings these field assemblies-or conventicles-were to grow into major problems of public order for the government." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conv…
(The text:) http://www.british-history.ac.uk/…
The cost of non-conformity limned by Speaker of H.C.
"....Fanatics, Sectaries, and Non-conformists....are no Friends to the established Government either in Church or State; and if the old Rule hold true, Qui Ecclesia contradicit non est pacificus, we have great Reason to prevent their Growth, and to punish their Practice. To this Purpose, we have prepared a Bill against their frequenting of Conventicles, the Seed-plots and Nurseries of their Opinions, under Pretence of Religious Worship. The First Offence we have made punishable only with a small Fine of Five Pounds, or Three Months Imprisonment, and Ten Pounds for a Peer. The Second Offence with Ten Pounds, or Six Months Imprisonment, and Twenty Pounds for a Peer. But for the Third Offence, after a Trial by a Jury at the General Quarter Sessions or Assizes, and the Trial of a Peer by his Peers, the Party convicted shall be transported to some of Your Majesty's Foreign Plantations, unless he redeem himself by laying down One Hundred Pounds: Immedicabile Vulnus Ense rescindendum, ne Pars sincera trabatur."
From: 'House of Lords Journal Volume 11: 17 May 1664', Journal of the House of Lords: volume 11: 1660-1666, pp. 619-21. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/… Date accessed: 17 May 2007.
(Abbreviated text:) 225. First Conventicle Act
(1664, May 17. 16 Charles II. c. 4. 5 S. R. 516.)
http://home.freeuk.net/don-aitken…
About Tuesday 17 May 1664
Terry F • Link
"not yet breaking any great store of wind, which I wonder at, for I cannot be well till I do do it."
Evidently indeed a vital sign. As careful he is of his health, I imagine Pepys checking it daily, normally without reflection, quickly analyzing the "wind" for quantity and certain qualities (direction, velocity...ah, sorry).
About Monday 16 May 1664
Terry F • Link
cumsallygrano calls our attention to the "Proviso against those People commonly called Quakers" in the "Bill against seditious Conventicles." It touches the good Sir W. Penn, whose son, William, was, of course, one...well, you know the story. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will…
About Monday 16 May 1664
Terry F • Link
"She holds her complexion still,...."
Wonder why this? She is unabashed that her house is at it is?
Ann, great idea. A Great Gathering of Garage Bands immaterializes.
About Monday 16 May 1664
Terry F • Link
"eeriest"
So the L&M transcription as well.
eerie
c.1300, north England and Scot. variant of O.E. earg "cowardly, fearful," from P.Gmc. *argaz (cf. O.N. argr "unmanly, voluptuous," Swed. arg "malicious," Ger. arg "bad, wicked"). Sense of "causing fear because of strangeness" is first attested 1792. http://www.etymonline.com/index.p…
Paul, your question -- "Wonder what might have happened to her" -- is appropriate for a woman of whom it is said "She holds her complexion still...."
About Monday 16 May 1664
Terry F • Link
Today, in his Diary, the Reverend Josselin offers petitionary prayers
16. Parliament adjourned until Nov. 20. passing a sharp act against coventicles(.) my little Rebekah very full of boils lord heal her and help us
http://linux02.lib.cam.ac.uk/earl…
(Draft-versions of the "sharp act against coventicles" have been passed in both Houses of Parliament, which have been granted an extension for a Conference to complete it. There is also the matter of his daughter's health.)