Thursday 24 July 1662

Up early this morning sending the things to the carrier’s, and my boy, who goes to-day, though his mistress do not till next Monday.

All the morning at the office, Sir W. Batten being come to town last night. I hear, to my great content, that my Lord Sandwich is safe landed in France. Dined at our chamber, where W. Bowyer with us, and after much simple talk with him, I left him, and to my office, where all the afternoon busy till 9 at night, among other things improving my late experiment at Woolwich about hemp. So home and to bed.


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First Reading

Pedro  •  Link

"my Lord Sandwich is safe landed in France"

It had been as Sandwich told him a close call. From other sources Pepys heard of his calmness while the courtiers gave themselves up as lost. (Ollard).

Terry F.  •  Link

"Sir W. Batten being come to town last night"
Robert Gertz, Ha! the sudden return to town of Sir W. Batten was almost presaged (and is overshadowed) by your stunning fancy of the sudden return from Ireland yesterday of the other Sir W., unwitting (and likely unwilling) host of the Pepys family, sqatters.
http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1…

Stolzi  •  Link

Sam experiments with hemp

No, not THAT kind of experiment...

Australian Susan  •  Link

How we view hemp today
Now THAT would be a sedative!(see yesterday)

Terry F.  •  Link

"much simple talk with [W. Bowyer]"
I take it that "simple" here is not derogatory. but of the genre of "instances of the simple light discourse that sometimes is in the Parliament House" = slightly off-color humor, banter: see http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1…

Cumgranissalis  •  Link

No politics or religion "after much simple talk with him"

Terry F.  •  Link

Nor information: "after much simple talk with him, I left him, and to my office"

Ann  •  Link

Sandwich's Safety:
One wonders how much maneuvering went on at court with the rumors of Sandwich being lost. I wish Sam could've enlightened us on this. I would imagine his political enemies, as well as opportunists, were busy during the last few days of rumors jostling for position....

Mary  •  Link

rumours of Sandwich's demise.

Speculation, perhaps, but I doubt whether serious re-positioning went very far. People were used to having to wait for news, both good and bad, to be confirmed in those days of slow and uncertain travel. It could be foolish and detrimental to a man's ambition to trust to rumour and reveal his hand too soon.

Robert Gertz  •  Link

"...improving my late experiment..."

Hmmn...As in, fudging my late experiment? Not that I doubt Sir Richard Ford's hemp is crap but I suspect our boy is doing his level best to stroke the report his way.

Jacqueline Gore  •  Link

Robert's "Penn comes home" bit was fun but I liked his sinister dialogue of Creed and Shepley a few entries back even better.

"fudging" -I don't know but what you may be right, Robert. Still, Sam may just want to outline the trial carefully in a report. It's interesting the office seems to require such a formal presentation-didn't a number of the boys attend the hemp trials?

Australian Susan  •  Link

"Improving"
I took this to mean that Sam was getting it right - typical of him.Since the first experiments, he has learnt more about rope and hemp and so redesigns his experiements in the light of his recently acquired knowledge. sam is every wanting to get to the bottom of things - to really know something!

tc  •  Link

The Hemp Experiments

Everything went well until the burn test...

Third Reading

San Diego Sarah  •  Link

The King may still be honeymooning at Hampton Court, but things in Ireland are heating up.

Some of this mail won't arrive at Whitehall for a couple of weeks, obviously:

Charles II to James Butler, 1st Duke of Ormonde, Lord Lt. of Ireland
Written from: Hampton Court
Date: 24 July 1662
Shelfmark: MS. Carte 42, fol(s). 668
Document type: Original

A mitigation of the rent reserved to the Crown upon certain lands, in the County of Kerry, of which Trinity College near Dublin was anciently seized in fee, and which are confirmed to the said College by the late Act of Settlement, is to be made, by reducing it to the ancient rent or otherwise, as the Lord Lieutenant shall deem befitting.
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George Morley, Bishop of Winchester to James Butler, 1st Duke of Ormonde, Lord Lt. of Ireland
Written from: Hampton Court
Date: 24 July 1662
Shelfmark: MS. Carte 45, fol(s). 109
Document type: Holograph

Congratulates the Duke's safe arrival in Ireland, but hopes that if his Grace's own inclinations do not lead him to return to England, before his absence shall have been very long, the King's commands may do so.
For all men's eyes and hopes are set upon him ...
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Renunciation, by certain of the Roman Catholic Clergy of Ireland
Date: 24 July 1662
Shelfmark: MS. Carte 45, fol(s). 315

Renunciation, by certain of the Roman Catholic Clergy of Ireland, both Secular and Regular, of any participation in, or approval of, an instrument entitled: 'The humble Remonstrance, Recognition, Protestation, and Petition, of the Roman Catholic Clergy of the Kingdom of Ireland', exhibited to ... Charles II, by Father Peter Walsh.

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San Diego Sarah  •  Link

PART 2

This Renunciation, which was published 5 weeks after Charles II's Remonstrance, can be read at
https://ota.bodleian.ox.ac.uk/rep…

The end reads: "These being the Tenents of our Religion in point of Loyalty and Submission to your Majesty's Commands, and our Dependence of the Sea [SIC] of Rome no way intrenching upon that perfect Obedience which by our Birth, by all Laws divine and humane we are bound to pay unto your Ma­jesty our naturall and Lawfull Soveraigne, We humbly beg, prostrate at your Majesty's feet, That you would be pleased to protect us from the se­vere persecution we suffer meerly for our profession in Religion: leaving those that are or hereafter shall be Guilty of other Crimes (and there have been such in all times as well by their Pens as by their Actions) to the punishment prescribed by the Law.

"Fr. Oliver Darcy, Bishop of Dromore.
Fr. George Dillon of S . Fran. Ord. Guardian of the Irish Franciscans at Paris.
Fr. Philip Rocb of S. Fran. Ord. Reader Gen. of Divinity.
Fr. Anthony Gearnon of S. Fran. Ord. one of Her Majesties the Queen Mother's Chapl.
Fr. John Everard of S. Fran. Ord. Conf. & Preac.
Fr. Anthony Nash of S. Fran. Ord. Conf. & Preac.
Fr. William Lynch of S. Fran. Ord. Conf.
Fr. Nicholas Sall of S. Fran. Ord. Conf. & Preac.
James Cusack. Doctor of Divinity
Cornellus Fogorry Protonor Apost. and Doctor of the Civil and Canon Law.
Daniel Dougan, Divine.
Fr. Henry Gibbon of S. Aug. Ord. Conf. & Preac.
Fr. Redmund Moore of S. Dom. Ord. Conf. & Pr.
Bartholomew Bellew.
Denis Fitz Ranna.
Bartholomew Flemming.
Fr. Redmund Caron of S. Fran. Ord. Reader ju­bilate of Divinity.
Fr. Simon Wafre of the same Order, Reader of Divinity.
F. James Caverley of S. Fran. Ord. Conf. & Pr.
Fr. John fitz Gerrald of S. Fran. Ord. Conf. & Pr.
Fr. Theobald Burk of S. Fran. Ord. Conf. & Pr.
Fr. Matthew Duff of S. Fran. Ord. Conf. & Proc.
Fr. Peter Geogbegan of S. Fran. Ord. Conf. & Pr.
Fr. Peter Walsh of S. Fran. Ord. Reader of Div. and Procurator of the Rom. Cath. Clerg. both Sec. & Reg. of Ireland."
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San Diego Sarah  •  Link

PART 3:

The Instrument sent by Father John MacBrady, an Irish Franciscan, and signed by Anthony O'Geoghegan, [titular] Bishop of Meath, and by some others ... to Louvain, to procure the University's censure against 'The Remonstrance'.
Date: 24 July 1662
Shelfmark: MS. Carte 221, fol(s). 259
Document type: Translation

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I've been searching for an explanation or transcript of The Remonstrance, which was published in December 1661. It clearly upset the Roman Catholic Irish.
JSTOR has it for money, but the preamble I can see only concerns an Ormonde agreement of 1649 which isn't helpful.
Can anyone help?
https://www.jstor.org/stable/3000…

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FROM: Carte Calendar Volume 33, January - August 1662
Shelfmark: MS. Carte Calendar 33
Extent: 488 pages
https://wayback.archive-it.org/or…

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