Friday 9 March 1665/66
Up, and being ready, to the Cockpitt to make a visit to the Duke of Albemarle, and to my great joy find him the same man to me that [he has been] heretofore, which I was in great doubt of, through my negligence in not visiting of him a great while; and having now set all to rights there, I am in mighty ease in my mind and I think shall never suffer matters to run so far backward again as I have done of late, with reference to my neglecting him and Sir W. Coventry.
Thence by water down to Deptford, where I met my Lord Bruncker and Sir W. Batten by agreement, and to measuring Mr. Castle’s new third-rate ship, which is to be called the Defyance.1 And here I had my end in saving the King some money and getting myself some experience in knowing how they do measure ships. Thence I left them and walked to Redriffe, and there taking water was overtaken by them in their boat, and so they would have me in with them to Castle’s house, where my Lady Batten and Madam Williams were, and there dined and a deale of doings. I had a good dinner and counterfeit mirthe and pleasure with them, but had but little, thinking how I neglected my business. Anon, all home to Sir W. Batten’s and there Mrs. Knipp coming we did spend the evening together very merry. She and I singing, and, God forgive me! I do still see that my nature is not to be quite conquered, but will esteem pleasure above all things, though yet in the middle of it, it has reluctances after my business, which is neglected by my following my pleasure. However musique and women I cannot but give way to, whatever my business is. They being gone I to the office a while and so home to supper and to bed.
16 Annotations
First Reading
Terry Foreman • Link
"Mr. Castle's new third-rate ship, which is to be called the Defyance"
See 11 January 1664/65: "to Gresham College to my Lord Brunker and Commissioner Pett, taking, Mr. Castle with me there to discourse over his draught of a ship he is to build for us." http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1…
jean-paul • Link
"However musique and women i cannot but give way to, whatever my business is."
Love you, Samuel!
Arthur Perry • Link
Why does Sam feel so much guilt for having some fun now and then?
Robert Gertz • Link
"However musique and women I cannot but give way to, whatever my business is."
Innocent enough did we not know of Ms. Bagwell...Not to mention little Frances Tooker. Hard to believe sometimes this lovable, charming fellow worrying about his love of a few pleasures is a man coldly pressuring a subordinate's wife for sex...And whether or not Ms. B is the innocent lamb she portrays or rather more sophisticated and scheming, on his side it's abuse of power and office, and an abuse he's not unaware of, regardless of the difference in viewpoint of his era.
Well, ok...Sam Pepys is never cold about anything...But his campaign ala Bagwell was and is very calculated and unfeeling.
Terry Foreman • Link
"to Deptford, where I met my Lord Bruncker and Sir W. Batten by agreement, and to measuring Mr. Castle’s new third-rate ship....my end in saving the King some money and getting myself some experience in knowing how they do measure ships. "
L&M remind us that Pepys had visited the vexed subject of measuring ships by tonnage on 28 December 1664: "I abroad with Sir W. Batten to the Council Chamber, where all of us to discourse about the way of measuring ships and the freight fit to give for them by the tun, where it was strange methought to hear so poor discourses among the Lords themselves, and most of all to see how a little empty matter delivered gravely by Sir W. Pen was taken mighty well, though nothing in the earth to the purpose." http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1… They note Pepys thereafter wrote a memo that he claimed, in 1683, was basis of a Council order on the matter that was in force for over a generation.
Mary • Link
"getting myself some experience in knowing how they do measure ships."
Revenons a nos moutons, Sam. It seems like a long time since the man showed interest and delight in acquiring some of the technical knowledge attached to ships and ship-building.
GrahamT • Link
“However musique and women i cannot but give way to..."
...and the wine Sam, to go with the women and song.
cgs • Link
Samuell was never satisfied, because 'e 'ad 'is Masters Degree, paid for [true] , that 'e dinae need anymore book learning, nae 'e 'ad an henquiring mind, he did, our Samuell.
Greed be rife then as it is now, thus one man asking embarrassing questions how the scales be tipped in favour of the schemer,the nosy one was always frowned upon, but as Samuell did have all correct answers thus he not be the one that be decorating the London bridge.
The plimsole line not be thought of at this time, and as always there always be those that be looking for getting paid 500 quid for toilets that be worth 10.
Caveat Emptor.
Todd Bernhardt • Link
"However musique and women I cannot but give way to, whatever my business is."
I have found my epitaph. Thank you, Sam.
"Why does Sam feel so much guilt for having some fun now and then?"
It's the Puritan in him, Arthur. Or perhaps it's human nature -- I often am conscious of the tug of war between my Id and Superego ... gives my Ego something to do, I suppose...
A. Hamilton • Link
"It seems a long time..."
My reaction exactly, Mary.
“However musique and women I cannot but give way to, whatever my business is.”
Low animal noises of "Hear, Hear" from the back benches.
Second Reading
Terry Foreman • Link
"I had a good dinner and counterfeit mirthe and pleasure with them, but had but little, thinking how I neglected my business."
And wasting the time on Madam Williams, and the Battens and their step-son-in-law, William Castle, who (the Index reminds us) was hostile to Pepys's allies J.Taylor, Ford and Rider, and to Deane, and who did unsatisfactory work.
Terry Foreman • Link
"measuring Mr. Castle’s new third-rate ship, which is to be called the Defyance"
L&M: Disputes arose about payment for the ship, the builder [Castle] having made it larger than was required by the Board's specifications.
Tonyel • Link
Well, ok...Sam Pepys is never cold about anything...But his campaign ala Bagwell was and is very calculated and unfeeling.
Putting our modern morals aside, I see Sam and the Bagwells regarding this as a business matter. They could not afford to bribe him with money to gain advantage so they bribed him with the only asset they had. I don't think Sam ever expressed any false affection for Mrs B. and, to be fair, he kept his side of the bargain.
john • Link
As so common with such events. one so dearly wishes to hear the Bagwells' side. Yet Pepys's marriage was not arranged.
Third Reading
San Diego Sarah • Link
We have heard how those who could left London to avoid the plague. Many people who could bought country homes, far away from the madding crowd.
One family who fled in 1665 was Mary Cradock and Charles Beale and their son, who went to the safety of Allbrook Farmhouse, Eastleigh, Hampshire, which they bought.
Parish records tell us that 19-year old gentlewoman Mary Cradock (1633-1699) had married Charles Beale (1631-1705) in 1652 at All Saints Church, Barrow, Suffolk, and for a time the couple lived in Covent Garden, part of an artists’ colony in what was a fashionable but rather louche area of London.
The birth of their son, Bartholomew, on the 12 February, 1655, places the Beales in London -- see the Registers of St. Paul’s Church, Covent Garden,
https://www.academia.edu/27500983…
They lived at Allbrook for 6 years, during which time she refined her technique. Among friends who visited the Beales at Allbrook was Izaak Walton, author of The Compleat Angler.
Mary Cradock Beale also wrote a manuscript 'Treatise on Friendship', which was sent from Allbrook on this day, March 9, 1666. https://www.theguardian.com/comme…
San Diego Sarah • Link
PART 2
The manuscript begins with a dedicatory letter, addressed to Elizabeth Tillotson*.
Beale's 'Discourse' makes high claims for the status and origins of friendship, the opening sentence declaring: 'Friendship is the nearest Union which distinct Souls are capable of (and is as rare to be found in sincerity, as it is excellent in its quality) though next to the glorifying our Creator, man seems to be made for nothing more'.
Beale justifies this with reference to the biblical Eve, who, she says was given by God to Adam 'for a friend, as well as for a wife'.
She also argues that, until the Fall, Eve was 'always of equal dignity and honour' with Adam, and that although Eve's sin has brought a curse on her female posterity, 'a small number [of women] by Friendship's interposition, have restored the marriage bond to its first institution'.
According to Beale, just as kingdoms and commonwealths become barbarous without the administration of laws, so friendship must be governed by rules; otherwise it 'degenerates into vice and becomes most destructive to the good of mankind, which it was designed chiefly to sustain'.
The most important condition for a friendship is that it should be established between suitable partners.
Therefore, Beale recommends anyone intending friendship should analyze his or her own character, as well as that of the friend.
... Furthermore, since 'Friendship is the most genuine light to discover virtue by', it 'makes us like the Deity'.
Beale concludes as she began it, by linking earthly friendship with spiritual welfare: 'Love virtue for itself, and endeavor the propagating it in others; is the principal support of this life, and the happiness of the next'.
https://catalog.libraries.psu.edu…
* Could this be Elizabeth French, niece of Oliver Cromwell, who in 1664 had married Dr. John Tillotson, later Archbishop of Canterbury? - SDS]
"That [Allbrook Farmhouse] was used by Beale as a studio was confirmed in the 1950s, when canvas-drying racks were found still in place in the dining-room," says Ms Draper.
In early 1671, the Beales returned to London to live in Pall Mall. Mary was not a fully professional painter until then, and thereafter the income from her portrait studio supported the family. Charles abandoned his civil service work, and became her manager.
That Mary Cradock Beale’s name is not widely known may be because in the "17th-century portraitists often failed to sign paintings, and much of her best work was ascribed to men, while a great quantity of their poorer efforts were attributed to her," says Helen Draper, a paintings conservator.
https://www.independent.co.uk/new…