Friday 25 January 1666/67

Lay pretty long, then to the office, where Lord Bruncker and Sir J. Minnes and I did meet, and sat private all the morning about dividing the Controller’s work according to the late order of Council, between them two and Sir W. Pen, and it troubled me to see the poor honest man, Sir J. Minnes, troubled at it, and yet the King’s work cannot be done without it. It was at last friendlily ended, and so up and home to dinner with my wife. This afternoon I saw the Poll Bill, now printed; wherein I do fear I shall be very deeply concerned, being to be taxed for all my offices, and then for my money that I have, and my title, as well as my head. It is a very great tax; but yet I do think it is so perplexed, it will hardly ever be collected duly. The late invention of Sir G. Downing’s is continued of bringing all the money into the Exchequer; and Sir G. Carteret’s three pence is turned for all the money of this act into but a penny per pound, which I am sorry for. After dinner to the office again, where Lord Bruncker, [Sir] W. Batten, and [Sir] W. Pen and I met to talk again about the Controller’s office, and there [Sir] W. Pen would have a piece of the great office cut out to make an office for him, which I opposed to the making him very angry, but I think I shall carry it against him, and then I care not. So a little troubled at this fray, I away by coach with my wife, and left her at the New Exchange, and I to my Lord Chancellor’s, and then back, taking up my wife to my Lord Bellasses, and there spoke with Mr. Moone, who tells me that the peace between us and Spayne is, as he hears, concluded on, which I should be glad of, and so home, and after a little at my office, home to finish my journall for yesterday and to-day, and then a little supper and to bed. This day the House hath passed the Bill for the Assessment, which I am glad of; and also our little Bill, for giving any one of us in the office the power of justice of peace, is done as I would have it.

26 Annotations

First Reading

Terry Foreman  •  Link

"the Bill for the Assessment,"

'Charles II, 1666: An Act for granting the Summe of Twelve hundred fifty six thousand three hundred forty seaven pounds thirteene shillings to the Kings Majestie towards the Maintenance of the present Warr.', Statutes of the Realm: volume 5: 1628-80 (1819), pp. 616-623. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/… Date accessed: 25 January 2010.

L. K. van Marjenhoff  •  Link

Admiral Sir Penn is probably just trying to take a chunk out of Sam's partying space.

Terry Foreman  •  Link

"our little Bill, for giving any one of us in the office the power of justice of peace"

'Charles II, 1666: An Act to prevent the Disturbances of Seamen and others and to preserve the Stores belonging to His Majesties Navy Royall.', Statutes of the Realm: volume 5: 1628-80 (1819), pp. 615-616. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/… Date accessed: 25 January 2010

Australian Susan  •  Link

"...and home to dinner with my wife..."

In other words - diner a deux - no other company. it seems dining with company has become the norm, so the solitary coupledom is remarked upon.

CGS  •  Link

He was in the Past a JP, may be it was for a limited term.

CGS  •  Link

Law is the Law:
"...
Votes for Relief of French Merchants whose Goods were seized, for being imported contrary to the King's Proclamation.

The House taking into Consideration the Votes brought up from the House of Commons concerning Goods of several French Merchants, seized on for being brought in contrary to His Majesty's Proclamation prohibiting importing of French Commodities:

For their Lordships better proceeding therein, several Merchants were called in, who presented a List of the Ships and Goods seized on; and upon Oath gave the House an Account, that the Goods were their proper Goods, bought with the Product of English Commodities.

But the House not being satisfied therewith, but desiring a better Discovery of the Truth, appointed these Lords following to examine Michaell Clipsham, Francis Young, George Toriano, Nicholas Thurman, Richard Aly, Theod're Jacobson, Henry Slater, Lucas Santen, James Trustone, Andrewe Pope, Vincent Delabar, Thomas Wade, Abraham Beake, Edward Thompson, and Samuell Churchman, sworn at the Bar this Day, concerning the Goods and Merchandize of several Merchants trading to France, upon which the House of Commons have passed several Votes, and report the State thereof unto this House:
.."

http://www.british-history.ac.uk/…

Robert Gertz  •  Link

First I remember reading that for all his flaws, Sam felt Sir John was a honest man.

***

I'd imagine Penn was very annoyed to think that Sam had made his own office long ago. Though at the time the decision to keep the "great office" for the titled members might have been meant as a slap-down to their "uppity" CoA when he insisted on his own space and only now does it dawn on Admiral Sir Will that Sam was quite the winner in that contest if one actually wishes to get a lot of work done in the office.

Michael Robinson  •  Link

" ... [Sir] W. Pen would have a piece of the great office cut out to make an office for him, which I opposed to the making him very angry, ..."

I wonder if Penn making a separate office would interfere with SP's discrete observation of the activities of the main office, though we have heard very little about the spy-hole in recent years.

" ...I fell upon boring holes for me to see from my closet into the great office, without going forth, wherein I please myself much. ..."
http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1…

Robert Gertz  •  Link

"Damnit, Pepys. You're not the only one in this office who wants his own place to bring women."

"Dad?" Will Jr., at front door stares.

martinb  •  Link

"It was at last friendlily ended"

Only the third time Pepys has used this adverb in the Diary so far, and neither of the other two uses seems to have provoked comment. Is this an instance of linguistic inventiveness or is it standard for the period? Few of us would feel comfortable using this word today, surely.

Don McCahill  •  Link

Re Terry's first post:

Why on earth is the grant "and 47 pounds and 13 pence"? Did the Commons assume that this is the portion that Charles would spend on his women, and the rest would go for the war? Not going to happen.

language hat  •  Link

"Few of us would feel comfortable using this word today, surely."

It's a word in good standing; check your dictionary. The fact that the -lily ending makes some people avoid it is interesting psychologically but really neither here nor there. As Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of English usage says, "the Merriam-Webster files indicate that in the 20th century, the use of friendlily is preferred to the use of friendly, at least in edited prose."

http://books.google.com/books?id=…

language hat  •  Link

(Preferred to the use of friendly as an adverb, that is, in case that wasn't clear.)

martinb  •  Link

Friendlily: well yes, the word is in dictionaries, but then so is the inaccurate claim, quoted in the link, that the word dates from 1680. For what it's worth, a quick web search produces a few hundred million examples of the adverbial "in a friendly way/manner" and about forty thousand for the f-word (only six thousand if written "friendlyly").

language hat  •  Link

"so is the inaccurate claim, quoted in the link, that the word dates from 1680"

Give them a break, they didn't have the vast expansion of citations available now via Google Books et sim.! When all that information has been assimilated, reference works will look very different. At any rate, that has nothing to do with the accuracy of their statement about usage, which rests on the huge M-W citation files.

cum salis grano  •  Link

"...It was at last friendlily ended..."
only one citation.
OED:
friendlily, adv.
[f. FRIENDLY a. + -LY2.]
Samuell predates the OED ref:

1680 Earl Rochester's Will in Wills Doctor's Comm. (Camden) 140 Soe long as my wife shall..friendlily live with my mother.

friendly, a. (n.) and adv.
A. adj.

1. Having the qualities or disposition of a friend, disposed to act as a friend, kind.
c900

2. a. Characteristic of or befitting a friend or friends; manifesting friendship.
c1385 CHAUCER
....
1606 SHAKES. Ant. & Cl. II. vi. 47 Your Mother came to Cicelie, and did finde Her welcome Friendly.
1683 Pennsylv. Archives I. 72 And first, I congratulate wth a friendly Joy.
3. a. Not hostile or at variance; on amicable terms. Const. to, with.
1595 SHAKES. John II. i. 481 Why answer not the double Maiesties, This friendly treatie of our threatned Towne.
1607 {emem} Timon V. i. 122 Nothing but himselfe, which lookes like man, Is friendly with him.
1613 PURCHAS Pilgrimage (1614) 695 The Inhabitants whereof..have shewed themselves friendly to the Portugals. 1671 NARBOROUGH Jrnl. in Acc. Sev. Late Voy. I. (1711) 135 The People were friendly..but..very theevish.

4. Favourably disposed, well-wishing; inclined to approve, help, or support.
1535

5. a. Of things, influences, etc.: Disposed or likely to be helpful or serviceable; kindly, propitious, favourable, salutary. Const. to, {dag}unto.
c1391 CHAUCER Astrol. II. §4 He is in dignite & conforted with frendly aspectys of planetes.
1592 SHAKES. Rom. & Jul. V. iii. 163 O churle, drinke all? and left no friendly drop, To helpe me after.
1659 HAMMOND On Ps. cvii. 23-30 By the friendliest gales.
1683 TRYON Way to Health 192 The more simple..sorts of Food and Drink, as Bread, Cheese..are both mild and friendly.

language hat  •  Link

Not sure why you're quoting all those adjectival uses, since we're talking about the adverb.

cum salis grano  •  Link

Just showing that the .."lily" was only quoted once and that "ly" version was quoted as an adj. more often than adv. in the 1600's.
I will let the Grammarians decide which is the better form or usage.

Second Reading

Terry Foreman  •  Link

"I saw the Poll Bill, now printed; wherein I do fear I shall be very deeply concerned, being to be taxed for all my offices, and then for my money that I have, and my title, as well as my head."

Pepys would in theory be taxed in respect of his offices as Clerk of the Acts, Treasurer for Tangier, and Surveyor of Victualing, and also in respect of his title as an 'esquire'.
(Per L&M note)

Terry Foreman  •  Link

"Mr. Moone...tells me that the peace between us and Spayne is, as he hears, concluded on,"

It was not concluded until 3/13 May, note L&M.

Terry Foreman  •  Link

"and Sir G. Carteret’s three pence is turned for all the money of this act into but a penny per pound, which I am sorry for." - Henry B. Wheatley

L&M transcribe this sentence otherwise:

"and Sir G. Carteret’s 3d is turned for all the money of this Act into but a penny per cent, which I am sorry for."

Sect xxv of the Poll Act reduced the Treasurer's poundage on all purchases.

Terry Foreman  •  Link

"This day the House hath passed the Bill for the Assessment, which I am glad of"

L&M: CJ, VIII. 683; an Eleven Months Assessment on land, to produce £1 1/4 m., which became law on 8 February. There had been 'hot disputes'; on 19 January about the clause which reserved £380,000 for the payment of seamen." Carte 46, 440v.

mountebank  •  Link

Not a classic entry but I did smile at the squabble in the annotations.

San Diego Sarah  •  Link

"... being to be taxed for all my offices, and then for my money that I have, and my title, as well as my head."

His head, and Elizabeth's head, and his 4 servants' heads, will cost him 12d. each (per year? month? quarter? No doubt he will fill us in whenever.)

And how can they possibly tax him on all "my money that I have"? Quick, ship it to Brampton ... and fire the two servants who have seen the trunks. How would anyone know? It's not like having a bank statement today.

I think he's correct that it'll be very hard for the tax assessor to figure it out accurately.

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