"the Bill for repealing the Triennial Act, and another about Writs of Errour"
The first Bill has been discussed well, but the second not, viz., "2. An Act for preventing of Abatements of Writs of Errors upon Judgements in the Exchequer."
A writ of error is a document from a higher jurisdiction bearing an order to a lower jurisdiction to review a proceeding for the sake of possible correcting a legal error in it (to summarize http://www.lectlaw.com/def2/w060.… ).
I gather this Bill is designed to preclude the Exchequer's judgments from being immune to reviews being ordered.
"Lord Peterborough presented a petition to the House from W. Joyce: and a great dispute, we hear, there was in the House for and against it. At last it was carried that he should be bayled till the House meets again after Easter, he giving bond for his appearance. This was not so good as we hoped, but as good as we could well expect. Anon comes the King and passed the Bill for repealing the Triennial Act, and another about Writs of Errour. I crowded in and heard the King's speech to them; but he speaks the worst that ever I heard man in my life worse than if he read it all, and he had it in writing in his hand."
Interesting that Pepys has the House of Lords dealing with W.Joyce first; but the House of Lords Journal has it latterly.
Lady Peters (via W. Joyce's incarceration), Will Joyce's wife, the two "fat" women -- Betty Lane and Kate Joyce, "Anth. Joyce's wife" -- and, of course, Elizabeth, whom he torments out of jealousy -- his imagination working overtime -- and because Mrs. Lane left him horny. And, anyway, the Joyce biz has him out of sorts altogether.
J[ohn].T[homas]. "Antiquity" Smith's 'Foundation Plan of the Ancient Palace of Westminster', Antiquities of Westminster (1807). Parliamentary Archives http://www.show.me.uk/gunpowderpl…
"Adjoining the old House of Lords, and separating it from the House of Commons, was the ancient building called the Painted Chamber. This was an apartment in the old Royal Palace, and was often used as a place of meeting for the Lords and Commons when they held a conference. The chamber was small. When, in consequence of increased accommodation being required in the House of Commons, the tapestry and wainscoting were taken down, it was discovered that the interior had been originally painted with single figures and historical subjects, arranged round the chamber in a succession of subjects in six bands, somewhat similar to the Bayeux tapestry. Careful drawings were made at the time by Mr. J. T. Smith for his book on Westminster, and they have since been engraved in the "Vetusta Monumenta," from drawings made in 1819 by Charles Stothard." http://www.british-history.ac.uk/…
Inside view of the Painted Chamber as it was in the year 1800 before the old tapestry was removed: Measured, drawn and engraved by J T Smith /.Mezzotint/ London. Published as the Act directs, by John Thomas Smith, N.o 36, Newman Street, Oxford Street dated 1806 http://www.heatons-of-tisbury.co.…
A Counter is, in general, a prison or detention facility. For the 17th century, British History Online names, besides the Counter in Poultry, Wood Street Counter (formerly in Bread Street); and the Counter in Southwark, which was in a part of St Margaret's Church and "in 1714 it was said to be a prison only for debt."
From: 'The borough of Southwark: Borough', A History of the County of Surrey: Volume 4 (1912), pp. 135-41. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/…. Date accessed: 05 April 2007.
St Margaret's Hill was the center of civic life in Southwark yet in 1746, as the convergence of streets there on the Rocque map suggests. At the time of the Diary, the Admiralty Court was held in a building on the Hill. http://www.motco.com/map/81002/Se…
Ly. Petre versus Joyce & al. for arresting her. Whereas William Joyce, appearing this Day upon Summons, hath, upon his own Confession, acknowledged that he procured Dame Elizabeth Petre, Wife of the Lord Petre, a Peer of this Realm, to be arrested, contrary to the Privilege of the Peerage of this Realm: It is ORDERED, by the Lords Spiritual and Temporal in Parliament assembled, That the Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod attending this House, or his Deputy, shall take the said William Joyce into his Custody, and retain him in Safety, until the Pleasure of this House be further signified.
From: 'House of Lords Journal Volume 11: 4 April 1664', Journal of the House of Lords: volume 11: 1660-1666, pp. 591-92. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/… . Date accessed: 04 April 2007.
Tothill Street ("Tuttle Street" in Pepys's rendering) runs along the top of this segment of the Rocque map: http://www.motco.com/Map/81002/Se… To the north is the southeast section of The Mall.
An ingrossed Bill to prevent the Disturbances of Seamen, and others; and to preserve the Stores belonging to his Majesty's Navy Royal; was read. And some Amendments being, upon the Question, agreed; and made at the Table; Resolved, &c. That the Bill do pass: And that the Title shall be, An Act to prevent the Disturbances of Seamen and others; and to preserve the Stores belonging to his Majesty's Navy Royal. And Mr. Coventry is to carry up the Bill to the Lords for their Concurrence.
From: 'House of Commons Journal Volume 8: 2 April 1664', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 8: 1660-1667 (1802), pp. 541-42. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/…. Date accessed: 03 April 2007.
Pepys was still living in the broad downstream of the Renaissance, i.e., the rebirth of ancient high culture -- even theatre. We've seen how epitaphs were written in Latin, the international language of learning. The difference between the ancients and modernity was broached in 1690 by Sir William Temple's *An Essay upon the Ancient and Modern Learning* in which he argued for the superiority of the ancients over the moderns. I.a., the ancients were superior teachers -- about, e.g., morals and military preparedness. Thucydides was read for what he said about war as a feature of political life and about strategy.
I would argue that the great gulf between antiquity and modernity, with a preference for the latter, was defined most sharply a century later when Friedrich Schlegel, in *Athenaeum* (1798), defined Romantic poetry as progressive and dynamic contra classical "beauty" and fixity. The classics were to be read so as to be assimilated and transformed for contemporary, Romantic works. http://plato.stanford.edu/entries…
F. Schlegel's era Thucydides was C.P.G. von Clausewitz, author of *Vom Kriege* (*On War*)(1832), but, since war is a constant, Thucydides continued and continues to be read. http://www.clausewitz.com/CWZHOME…
Comments
First Reading
About Wednesday 6 April 1664
Terry F • Link
"the Counter"
Link to the Description and Discussion of The Counter
http://www.pepysdiary.com/encyclo…
About Tuesday 5 April 1664
Terry F • Link
"Her body was out of temper for any dalliance"
Was Mrs. Betty in her ****** ?
About Tuesday 5 April 1664
Terry F • Link
"the Bill for repealing the Triennial Act, and another about Writs of Errour"
The first Bill has been discussed well, but the second not, viz., "2. An Act for preventing of Abatements of Writs of Errors upon Judgements in the Exchequer."
A writ of error is a document from a higher jurisdiction bearing an order to a lower jurisdiction to review a proceeding for the sake of possible correcting a legal error in it (to summarize http://www.lectlaw.com/def2/w060.… ).
I gather this Bill is designed to preclude the Exchequer's judgments from being immune to reviews being ordered.
Or...?!
About Tuesday 5 April 1664
Terry F • Link
"Lord Peterborough presented a petition to the House from W. Joyce: and a great dispute, we hear, there was in the House for and against it. At last it was carried that he should be bayled till the House meets again after Easter, he giving bond for his appearance. This was not so good as we hoped, but as good as we could well expect. Anon comes the King and passed the Bill for repealing the Triennial Act, and another about Writs of Errour. I crowded in and heard the King's speech to them; but he speaks the worst that ever I heard man in my life worse than if he read it all, and he had it in writing in his hand."
Interesting that Pepys has the House of Lords dealing with W.Joyce first; but the House of Lords Journal has it latterly.
About Tuesday 5 April 1664
Terry F • Link
A day full of women for/not for SP
Lady Peters (via W. Joyce's incarceration), Will Joyce's wife, the two "fat" women -- Betty Lane and Kate Joyce, "Anth. Joyce's wife" -- and, of course, Elizabeth, whom he torments out of jealousy -- his imagination working overtime -- and because Mrs. Lane left him horny. And, anyway, the Joyce biz has him out of sorts altogether.
About Monday 4 April 1664
Terry F • Link
Lady Peters and Will Joyce
What a pair. What cards would they be in a deck?
About Friday 9 March 1659/60
Terry F • Link
The Painted Chamber
For more: http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1…
About Friday 9 March 1659/60
Terry F • Link
Susanna's link should now be:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/trai…
About Westminster Hall
Terry F • Link
J[ohn].T[homas]. "Antiquity" Smith's 'Foundation Plan of the Ancient Palace of Westminster', Antiquities of Westminster (1807). Parliamentary Archives
http://www.show.me.uk/gunpowderpl…
About Monday 4 April 1664
Terry F • Link
The Painted Chamber:
"Adjoining the old House of Lords, and separating it from the House of Commons, was the ancient building called the Painted Chamber. This was an apartment in the old Royal Palace, and was often used as a place of meeting for the Lords and Commons when they held a conference. The chamber was small. When, in consequence of increased accommodation being required in the House of Commons, the tapestry and wainscoting were taken down, it was discovered that the interior had been originally painted with single figures and historical subjects, arranged round the chamber in a succession of subjects in six bands, somewhat similar to the Bayeux tapestry. Careful drawings were made at the time by Mr. J. T. Smith for his book on Westminster, and they have since been engraved in the "Vetusta Monumenta," from drawings made in 1819 by Charles Stothard." http://www.british-history.ac.uk/…
Inside view of the Painted Chamber as it was in the year 1800 before the old tapestry was removed:
Measured, drawn and engraved by J T Smith /.Mezzotint/ London. Published as the Act directs, by John Thomas Smith, N.o 36, Newman Street, Oxford Street dated 1806 http://www.heatons-of-tisbury.co.…
About Monday 4 April 1664
Terry F • Link
"to Westminster, to the Painted Chamber"
Cf. 9 March 1659/60 annotation by Susanna and language hat
http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1…
Susanna's link should now be:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/trai…
About Counter/Compter
Terry F • Link
A Counter is, in general, a prison or detention facility. For the 17th century, British History Online names, besides the Counter in Poultry, Wood Street Counter (formerly in Bread Street); and the Counter in Southwark, which was in a part of St Margaret's Church and "in 1714 it was said to be a prison only for debt."
From: 'The borough of Southwark: Borough', A History of the County of Surrey: Volume 4 (1912), pp. 135-41. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/…. Date accessed: 05 April 2007.
About St Margaret's Hill (Southwark)
Terry F • Link
St Margaret's Hill was the center of civic life in Southwark yet in 1746, as the convergence of streets there on the Rocque map suggests. At the time of the Diary, the Admiralty Court was held in a building on the Hill.
http://www.motco.com/map/81002/Se…
About Tothill Street
Terry F • Link
Tothill Street on the Google map of London
http://maps.google.com/maps?sourc…
About Black Rod
Terry F • Link
The Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blac…
About Monday 4 April 1664
Terry F • Link
"the Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blac…
About Monday 4 April 1664
Terry F • Link
W. Joyce "was committed to the Black Rod"
Ly. Petre versus Joyce & al. for arresting her.
Whereas William Joyce, appearing this Day upon Summons, hath, upon his own Confession, acknowledged that he procured Dame Elizabeth Petre, Wife of the Lord Petre, a Peer of this Realm, to be arrested, contrary to the Privilege of the Peerage of this Realm:
It is ORDERED, by the Lords Spiritual and Temporal in Parliament assembled, That the Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod attending this House, or his Deputy, shall take the said William Joyce into his Custody, and retain him in Safety, until the Pleasure of this House be further signified.
From: 'House of Lords Journal Volume 11: 4 April 1664', Journal of the House of Lords: volume 11: 1660-1666, pp. 591-92. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/… . Date accessed: 04 April 2007.
About Tothill Street
Terry F • Link
Tothill Street ("Tuttle Street" in Pepys's rendering) runs along the top of this segment of the Rocque map: http://www.motco.com/Map/81002/Se…
To the north is the southeast section of The Mall.
About Saturday 2 April 1664
Terry F • Link
Seamen and Naval Stores.
An ingrossed Bill to prevent the Disturbances of Seamen, and others; and to preserve the Stores belonging to his Majesty's Navy Royal; was read.
And some Amendments being, upon the Question, agreed; and made at the Table;
Resolved, &c. That the Bill do pass: And that the Title shall be, An Act to prevent the Disturbances of Seamen and others; and to preserve the Stores belonging to his Majesty's Navy Royal.
And Mr. Coventry is to carry up the Bill to the Lords for their Concurrence.
From: 'House of Commons Journal Volume 8: 2 April 1664', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 8: 1660-1667 (1802), pp. 541-42. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/…. Date accessed: 03 April 2007.
About Saturday 2 April 1664
Terry F • Link
How the classics are read depends
on trends.
Pepys was still living in the broad downstream of the Renaissance, i.e., the rebirth of ancient high culture -- even theatre. We've seen how epitaphs were written in Latin, the international language of learning. The difference between the ancients and modernity was broached in 1690 by Sir William Temple's *An Essay upon the Ancient and Modern Learning* in which he argued for the superiority of the ancients over the moderns. I.a., the ancients were superior teachers -- about, e.g., morals and military preparedness. Thucydides was read for what he said about war as a feature of political life and about strategy.
(A link to Jonathan Swift's *The Battle of the Books*
http://newark.rutgers.edu/~jlynch… )
I would argue that the great gulf between antiquity and modernity, with a preference for the latter, was defined most sharply a century later when Friedrich Schlegel, in *Athenaeum* (1798), defined Romantic poetry as progressive and dynamic contra classical "beauty" and fixity. The classics were to be read so as to be assimilated and transformed for contemporary, Romantic works. http://plato.stanford.edu/entries…
F. Schlegel's era Thucydides was C.P.G. von Clausewitz, author of *Vom Kriege* (*On War*)(1832), but, since war is a constant, Thucydides continued and continues to be read. http://www.clausewitz.com/CWZHOME…