"The House is upon the King's answer to their message about Temple, which is, that my Lord of Bristoll did tell him that Temple did say those words; so the House are resolved upon sending some of their members to him to know the truth, and to demand satisfaction if it be not true."
Mr. Secretary Morice did further acquaint the House, That he had received Command from his Majesty to declare to the House, That the Earl of Bristoll was the Person that did deliver the Message from Sir Richard Temple to his Majesty.
Resolved, &c. That the humble Thanks of this House be returned to his Majesty, for his gracious Message, in relation to the Matter concerning Sir Richard Temple.
And Mr. Secretary Morice is to return the Thanks of this House to his Majesty.
Resolved, &c. That a Copy of the first Message sent hither by his Majesty, against Sir Richard Temple, be sent to the Earl of Bristoll: And he be made acquainted, That the King hath sent Word to this House, That he brought the Message to him, from Sir Richard Temple; and his Answer desired, Whether Sir Richard Temple did desire him so to do.
Ordered, That Mr. John Vaughan and Mr. Garway do attend the Earl of Bristoll with this Message.
From: 'House of Commons Journal Volume 8: 26 June 1663', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 8: 1660-1667 (1802), pp. 510-11. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/…. Date accessed: 26 June 2006.
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"It seems the House do consent to send to the King to desire that he would be graciously pleased to let them know who it was that did inform him of what words Sir Richard Temple should say, which were to this purpose: “That if the King would side with him, or be guided by him and his party, that he should not lack money:” but without knowing who told it, they do not think fit to call him to any account for it."
From the H of C yesterday:
Privilege- Charge against Sir R. Temple.
Sir Charles Hussey reports from the Committee appointed to examine the Matter concerning Sir Richard Temple, That the Committee, upon Examination of the Matter, had passed some Resolves, to be nominated to the House: Which he read in his Place; and after, delivered the same in at the Clerk's Table.
And the Votes being twice read; and debated;
Resolved, That the King's Majesty be humbly desired, that he would be graciously pleased to name the Person that did deliver the Message to his Majesty from Sir Richard Temple: And that his Majesty's Two Principal Secretaries of State, Mr. Treasurer, and Sir William Compton, do attend his Majesty, and acquaint him with the Desires of this House.
From: 'House of Commons Journal Volume 8: 20 June 1663', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 8: 1660-1667 (1802), p. 507. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/…. Date accessed: 26 June 2006.
"taking up all the papers of moment which lead to the clearing of his accounts unobserved out of the Controller’s hand"
L&M observe that Creed had spent £4600 plus on supplies in 1661-62 as Deputy-Treasurer of Sandwich's fleet in the Mediterranean.
My read on this is that he would, of necessity, have done so as need arose, without the supervision of the Navy treasurer (Controller), and that his receipts, etc., would have been far from orderly. SP is helping organize a claim; but that it is irregularly bloated isn't per se clear.
"Don John of Austria [the Younger]... was forced...to flee away"
"Don Juan José de Austria, Count of Oñate (1629 - 17 September 1679) was a Spanish general and political figure. He served as the prime minister of Spain between 1677 and 1679....During 1661 and 1662 he commanded against the Portuguese in Estremadura. The Spanish troops were ill-appointed, irregularly paid and un-trustworthy, but they were superior in numbers and some successes were gained. If Don John had not suffered from the indolence which Clarendon, who knew him, considered his chief defect, the Portuguese would have been hard pressed. The greater part of the south of Portugal was overrun, but in 1663 the Portuguese were reinforced by a body of English troops, and were put under the command of the Huguenot Schomberg. By him Don John was completely beaten at Estremos." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John…
A doublet is a man's snug-fitting buttoned jacket that was worn in Western Europe...Through the Tudor period, fashionable doublets remained close-fitting with tight sleeves, but acquired long skirts and elaborate surface decoration suchs as pinks (patterns of small cuts in the fabric), slashes, embroidery, and applied braid.[more and an image and links to others] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doub…
There were two sources of animus against this contract. (1) Sirr John Winter was a Catholic, like the Queen, which enraged Roger Pepys and other anti-papists in Parliament. (2) There had been, and would continue for decades to be, constant conflict between the historic rights of the commoners in the Forest of Deane and the imposition of royal prerogatives, sponsoring entrepreneurial early industrial extraction of iron and timber by the likes of the Winter family.
"in Sir J. Winter’s case, in which I spoke to [my cozen Roger, he is so high that he says he deserves to be hanged"
The background of this seems to be a contract by virtue of which Sir J. Winter stood to profit, which, unbeknownst to Roger, his cousin Samuel had himself drafted a year ago.
18 June 1662 - "to Sir J. Winter’s chamber by appointment, and met Mr. Pett, where he and I read over his last contract with the King for the Forest of Dean, whereof I took notes because of this new one that he is now in making." http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1…
20 June 1662 "to the office, and there drew up the agreement between the King and Sir John Winter about the Forrest of Deane; and having done it, he came himself (I did not know him to be the Queen’s Secretary before, but observed him to be a man of fine parts); and we read it, and both liked it well." http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1…
Wayneman "is gone away to his brother; but I do resolve even to let him go away for good and all."
Perhaps he never bargained for the beatings, which his sister, Jane, hadn't suffered; but corporal punishment ('discipline') for a young male servant was S.O.P. at that time, and Pepys's patience has perhaps been tested once too often.
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About The Spanish Curate (John Fletcher and Philip Massinger)
TerryF • Link
Project Gutenberg's The Spanish Curate, by Francis Beaumont and John Fletcher
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/12…
About Friday 26 June 1663
TerryF • Link
"compass"
Verb
- compass (bring about; accomplish) "This writer attempts more than his talents can compass"
http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl…
About Friday 26 June 1663
TerryF • Link
"The House is upon the King's answer to their message about Temple, which is, that my Lord of Bristoll did tell him that Temple did say those words; so the House are resolved upon sending some of their members to him to know the truth, and to demand satisfaction if it be not true."
For the background ref Mon 22 June http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1…
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In the H of C this morning:
Privilege- Charge against Sir R. Temple.
Mr. Secretary Morice did further acquaint the House, That he had received Command from his Majesty to declare to the House, That the Earl of Bristoll was the Person that did deliver the Message from Sir Richard Temple to his Majesty.
Resolved, &c. That the humble Thanks of this House be returned to his Majesty, for his gracious Message, in relation to the Matter concerning Sir Richard Temple.
And Mr. Secretary Morice is to return the Thanks of this House to his Majesty.
Resolved, &c. That a Copy of the first Message sent hither by his Majesty, against Sir Richard Temple, be sent to the Earl of Bristoll: And he be made acquainted, That the King hath sent Word to this House, That he brought the Message to him, from Sir Richard Temple; and his Answer desired, Whether Sir Richard Temple did desire him so to do.
Ordered, That Mr. John Vaughan and Mr. Garway do attend the Earl of Bristoll with this Message.
From: 'House of Commons Journal Volume 8: 26 June 1663', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 8: 1660-1667 (1802), pp. 510-11. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/…. Date accessed: 26 June 2006.
About Friday 26 June 1663
TerryF • Link
"getting my Lord to let me have security...for my money."
See 28 March 1661 for Emilio's clarification of Pepys's first 500l. investment with Mountagu (later Sandwich).
http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1…
Glyn, count me among those who read Robert Gertz's guide to what's really up with the Pepyses.
About Friday 26 June 1663
TerryF • Link
"a Genoese gaily"
"a Genoese Gally" is what L&M have.
About Strawberries
TerryF • Link
Strawberry
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The strawberry (Fragaria) is a genus of plants in the family Rosaceae, and the fruit of these plants. There are more than 20 named species and many hybrids and cultivars.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stra…
About Monday 22 June 1663
TerryF • Link
"It seems the House do consent to send to the King to desire that he would be graciously pleased to let them know who it was that did inform him of what words Sir Richard Temple should say, which were to this purpose: “That if the King would side with him, or be guided by him and his party, that he should not lack money:” but without knowing who told it, they do not think fit to call him to any account for it."
From the H of C yesterday:
Privilege- Charge against Sir R. Temple.
Sir Charles Hussey reports from the Committee appointed to examine the Matter concerning Sir Richard Temple, That the Committee, upon Examination of the Matter, had passed some Resolves, to be nominated to the House: Which he read in his Place; and after, delivered the same in at the Clerk's Table.
And the Votes being twice read; and debated;
Resolved, That the King's Majesty be humbly desired, that he would be graciously pleased to name the Person that did deliver the Message to his Majesty from Sir Richard Temple: And that his Majesty's Two Principal Secretaries of State, Mr. Treasurer, and Sir William Compton, do attend his Majesty, and acquaint him with the Desires of this House.
From: 'House of Commons Journal Volume 8: 20 June 1663', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 8: 1660-1667 (1802), p. 507. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/…. Date accessed: 26 June 2006.
About Thursday 25 June 1663
TerryF • Link
"taking up all the papers of moment which lead to the clearing of his accounts unobserved out of the Controller’s hand"
L&M observe that Creed had spent £4600 plus on supplies in 1661-62 as Deputy-Treasurer of Sandwich's fleet in the Mediterranean.
My read on this is that he would, of necessity, have done so as need arose, without the supervision of the Navy treasurer (Controller), and that his receipts, etc., would have been far from orderly. SP is helping organize a claim; but that it is irregularly bloated isn't per se clear.
About Kirby Castle (Bethnal Green)
TerryF • Link
The Blind Beggar of Bednall Green
A version of the ballad Pepys says referred to the man who built the house (Diary, 26 June, 1663).
http://theotherpages.org/poems/ba…
About Thursday 25 June 1663
TerryF • Link
"Don John of Austria [the Younger]... was forced...to flee away"
"Don Juan José de Austria, Count of Oñate (1629 - 17 September 1679) was a Spanish general and political figure. He served as the prime minister of Spain between 1677 and 1679....During 1661 and 1662 he commanded against the Portuguese in Estremadura. The Spanish troops were ill-appointed, irregularly paid and un-trustworthy, but they were superior in numbers and some successes were gained. If Don John had not suffered from the indolence which Clarendon, who knew him, considered his chief defect, the Portuguese would have been hard pressed. The greater part of the south of Portugal was overrun, but in 1663 the Portuguese were reinforced by a body of English troops, and were put under the command of the Huguenot Schomberg. By him Don John was completely beaten at Estremos." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John…
About Doublet
TerryF • Link
A doublet is a man's snug-fitting buttoned jacket that was worn in Western Europe...Through the Tudor period, fashionable doublets remained close-fitting with tight sleeves, but acquired long skirts and elaborate surface decoration suchs as pinks (patterns of small cuts in the fabric), slashes, embroidery, and applied braid.[more and an image and links to others] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doub…
About Wednesday 24 June 1663
TerryF • Link
Alone
Samuel has oft writ that he dined alone,
but not oft breakfasted so - though one day he did do a carry-out -was it a morning-draught, and was it whey?
Yes i.A.s., monitor of socio-economic pecking-orders, today's entry should be a special feast for thine intellectual digestive tract.
About Wednesday 24 June 1663
TerryF • Link
Drink and nine-pins
"played with [Mr Creed] at nine pins for some drink, and to make the fellows drink that set up the pins"
I take it who loses pays for ale for the other and for the pin-setters, who thereby were not *forced* but were treated to drink?
Uncommon? but methinks, typical of our Pepys.
About Wednesday 24 June 1663
TerryF • Link
"he signs bills only...to be rid of men."
L&M transcribe this "he signs bills only..., to be rid of them."
About Tuesday 23 June 1663
TerryF • Link
Sir J. Winter's Catholicism & expert knowledge of gunpowder -
Ah, yes - thanks, Pauline, for reminding us what goes with mining - "the industrial extraction of iron" from the Forest of Deane.
A quick online search suggests that it will be many more years before enough time has passed for there to be poetic warnings about the Gunpowder Plot.
About Tuesday 23 June 1663
TerryF • Link
"I was...contented to be quiet and to sign...but in my manner so as to justify myself"
Did he append a "signing statement" to his signature?
About Tuesday 23 June 1663
TerryF • Link
Sir J. Winter’s case
There were two sources of animus against this contract.
(1) Sirr John Winter was a Catholic, like the Queen, which enraged Roger Pepys and other anti-papists in Parliament.
(2) There had been, and would continue for decades to be, constant conflict between the historic rights of the commoners in the Forest of Deane and the imposition of royal prerogatives, sponsoring entrepreneurial early industrial extraction of iron and timber by the likes of the Winter family.
About Tuesday 23 June 1663
TerryF • Link
"in Sir J. Winter’s case, in which I spoke to [my cozen Roger, he is so high that he says he deserves to be hanged"
The background of this seems to be a contract by virtue of which Sir J. Winter stood to profit, which, unbeknownst to Roger, his cousin Samuel had himself drafted a year ago.
18 June 1662 - "to Sir J. Winter’s chamber by appointment, and met Mr. Pett, where he and I read over his last contract with the King for the Forest of Dean, whereof I took notes because of this new one that he is now in making." http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1…
20 June 1662 "to the office, and there drew up the agreement between the King and Sir John Winter about the Forrest of Deane; and having done it, he came himself (I did not know him to be the Queen’s Secretary before, but observed him to be a man of fine parts); and we read it, and both liked it well." http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1…
About Tuesday 23 June 1663
TerryF • Link
Wayneman "is gone away to his brother; but I do resolve even to let him go away for good and all."
Perhaps he never bargained for the beatings, which his sister, Jane, hadn't suffered; but corporal punishment ('discipline') for a young male servant was S.O.P. at that time, and Pepys's patience has perhaps been tested once too often.
About Jane Edwards (b. Birch, Pepys' maid)
TerryF • Link
Sister of Wayneman Birch (Pepys’ “boy”)
http://www.pepysdiary.com/encyclo…