"Was this the Annual Meeting of the Brethren of Trinity House?"
Evidently. Cf. Monday 26 May 1662 - "to the Trinity House; where the Brethren...choosing a new Maister; which is Sir J. Minnes, notwithstanding Sir W. Batten did contend highly for it" http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1…
BUT what does it mean to hold an “election…without any control”?
Australian Susan, in any case it was misleading to speak of Matins at all. Foregive me. After finally bidding the family adieu, Samuel attended Evening Prayer, for which the lessons be 2 Chron. 33 and James 3, as best as I can tell. http://www.eskimo.com/~lhowell/bc…, though I am glad to be corrected. Evidently neither of these was used by Dr Bretton.
Australian Susan, because I do not trust my grasp of the 1662 BCP, you will see that all I weote about the "Lesson" was hypothetical -"If this is SP’s rendering....&c"
The "the beating of a drum" in Wilts. is not a poltergeists??!
POGO, 28 Aug, 1950. Psychoanalysis of the Pup Dog reveals that "poltergeists make up the principle type of spontaneous material manifestation." : http://www.igopogo.com/1950d.htm
(The full quotation came from elsewhere, but see this site for books [for sale] to complement Paul Chapin's survey at Amazon.com of the Pogo republication program coincidentally 28 Aug 1662, when Mam’zelle Hepzibah's carriage was cited [sighted?] by A. Hamilton) http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1… )
Mr. Pepys does penance for his absence from church yesterday.
"Thence to church, where Dr. Britton preached a sermon full of words against the Nonconformists, but no great matter in it, nor proper for the day at all. 'With one mind and one mouth give glory to God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.'"
If this is SP's rendering of the Epistle to the Romans, 15:6, the Lesson for Matins today is, Ch. 15, -- the climax of Paul's letter's argument, in which Paul exhorts the diverse members of the church in Rome to evidence mutual aid and unity. It begins: "1. We then that are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak, and not to please ourselves. 2. Let every one of us please his neighbour for his good to edification. 3. For even Christ pleased not himself; but, as it is written, The reproaches of them that reproached thee fell on me. 4. For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope. 5. Now the God of patience and consolation grant you to be likeminded one toward another according to Christ Jesus: 6. That ye may with one mind and one mouth glorify God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ."
A rather odd application, surely.! Why does SP judge it is not "proper for the day at all"?
On earlier Sundays there have been hints that he disapproves of sermons that treat the current religious/political situation. Is this it? Or has Dr. Britton touched another nerve?
The character of the Parson from the General Prologue of Chaucer's *Caunterbury Tales* (from the "Go to" drop-down menu on the right select "Parson") http://www.towson.edu/~duncan/cha…
SONG TO A FAIR YOUNG LADY, GOING OUT OF THE TOWN IN THE SPRING
by: John Dryden [emended]
Seek not the cause why sullen Spring So long delays her flowers to bear; Why warbling birds forget to sing, And winter storms invert the year: [Bess] is gone; and fate provides To make it Spring where she resides.
[Bess] is gone, the cruel fair; She cast not back a pitying eye: But left her lover in despair To sigh, to languish, and to die: Ah! how can those fair eyes endure To give the wounds they will not cure!
Great God of Love, why hast thou made A face that can all hearts command, That all religions can invade, And change the laws of every land? Where thou hadst plac'd such power before, Thou shouldst have made her mercy more.
When [Bess] to the temple comes, Adoring crowds before her fall; She can restore the dead from tombs And every life but mine recall. I only am by Love design'd To be the victim for mankind.
"in our way saw my Lady Castlemaine, who, I fear, is not so handsome as I have taken her for, and now she begins to decay something."
I take "in our way" to mean "on the very street we walked along" - perhaps they hadn't seen Lady Castlemaine as close-up in a while, if ever (and she without her full "face" on)? If she's pregnant, mightn't one expect her to be, ah, radiant?
Youth's the Season made for Joys, Love is then our Duty, She alone who that employs, Well deserves her Beauty. Let's be gay, While we may, Beauty's a Flower, despis'd in Decay. Youth's the Season, &c.
Let us drink and sport to-day, Ours is not to-morrow. Love with Youth flies swift away, Age is nought but Sorrow. Dance and sing, Time's on the Wing. Life never knows the Return of Spring. CHORUS. Let us drink, &c. http://www.gutenberg.org/dirs/ete…
First "among the tarr men, to look the price of tarr" then, evidence in hand as to what is charged on theopen market, "a difference with Sir W. Batten about Mr. Bowyer’s tarr..., for I will not have the King abused so abominably in the price of what we buy, by Sir W. Batten’s corruption and underhand dealing."
IF SP had a "cold," what was he doing 2-3 days ago?
He could have been circulating socially/ putting his immune system at risk at that time (iIt takes a little time for the bugs/germs to gestate) -- We know he is always out and about; but might his immune system also have been just a little stressed by his final (non-)confrontation with Pembleton, or the confrontation of Ashwell, et al., in the wine cellar?
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About Monday 15 June 1663
TerryF • Link
"Was this the Annual Meeting of the Brethren of Trinity House?"
Evidently. Cf. Monday 26 May 1662 - "to the Trinity House; where the Brethren...choosing a new Maister; which is Sir J. Minnes, notwithstanding Sir W. Batten did contend highly for it"
http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1…
BUT what does it mean to hold an “election…without any control”?
About Monday 15 June 1663
TerryF • Link
Back to Stolzi's Q about the meeting at Trinity House -
Was this the Annual Meeting of the Brethren of Trinity House?
AND what does it mean to hold an "election...without any control"?
(Another day at the office, all slip-shod....)
About Monday 15 June 1663
TerryF • Link
Australian Susan, in any case it was misleading to speak of Matins at all. Foregive me. After finally bidding the family adieu, Samuel attended Evening Prayer, for which the lessons be 2 Chron. 33 and James 3, as best as I can tell. http://www.eskimo.com/~lhowell/bc…, though I am glad to be corrected. Evidently neither of these was used by Dr Bretton.
About Monday 15 June 1663
TerryF • Link
Australian Susan, because I do not trust my grasp of the 1662 BCP, you will see that all I weote about the "Lesson" was hypothetical -"If this is SP’s rendering....&c"
He did have an attraction to Dr William Bates, the Presbyterian divine, http://www.pepysdiary.com/encyclo… whoSE last and memorable sermon was preached Sunday 17 August 1662 http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1…
About Monday 15 June 1663
TerryF • Link
The "the beating of a drum" in Wilts. is not a poltergeists??!
POGO, 28 Aug, 1950. Psychoanalysis of the Pup Dog reveals that "poltergeists make up the principle type of spontaneous material manifestation." : http://www.igopogo.com/1950d.htm
(The full quotation came from elsewhere, but see this site for books [for sale] to complement Paul Chapin's survey at Amazon.com of the Pogo republication program coincidentally 28 Aug 1662, when Mam’zelle Hepzibah's carriage was cited [sighted?] by A. Hamilton) http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1… )
About Monday 15 June 1663
TerryF • Link
"Makes sense to me, but why not to SP?"
Rhetorical Q.
Nice instance of the Churchill bon mot.
About Monday 15 June 1663
TerryF • Link
Stolzi, a nice suggested application and occasion - it being the Monday after Trinity Sunday. Makes sense to me, but why not to SP?
About Monday 15 June 1663
TerryF • Link
The hints that he disapproves of sermons that treat the current events have also been reported of Fridays during Lent.
About Monday 15 June 1663
TerryF • Link
Mr. Pepys does penance for his absence from church yesterday.
"Thence to church, where Dr. Britton preached a sermon full of words against the Nonconformists, but no great matter in it, nor proper for the day at all. 'With one mind and one mouth give glory to God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.'"
If this is SP's rendering of the Epistle to the Romans, 15:6, the Lesson for Matins today is, Ch. 15, -- the climax of Paul's letter's argument, in which Paul exhorts the diverse members of the church in Rome to evidence mutual aid and unity. It begins:
"1. We then that are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak, and not to please ourselves. 2. Let every one of us please his neighbour for his good to edification. 3. For even Christ pleased not himself; but, as it is written, The reproaches of them that reproached thee fell on me. 4. For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope. 5. Now the God of patience and consolation grant you to be likeminded one toward another according to Christ Jesus: 6. That ye may with one mind and one mouth glorify God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ."
A rather odd application, surely.! Why does SP judge it is not "proper for the day at all"?
On earlier Sundays there have been hints that he disapproves of sermons that treat the current religious/political situation. Is this it? Or has Dr. Britton touched another nerve?
About Sunday 14 June 1663
TerryF • Link
The character of the Parson from the General Prologue of Chaucer's *Caunterbury Tales* (from the "Go to" drop-down menu on the right select "Parson")
http://www.towson.edu/~duncan/cha…
About Sunday 14 June 1663
TerryF • Link
Evidently, RG, he's counting on her forgetting...
SONG TO A FAIR YOUNG LADY, GOING OUT OF THE TOWN IN THE SPRING
by: John Dryden [emended]
Seek not the cause why sullen Spring
So long delays her flowers to bear;
Why warbling birds forget to sing,
And winter storms invert the year:
[Bess] is gone; and fate provides
To make it Spring where she resides.
[Bess] is gone, the cruel fair;
She cast not back a pitying eye:
But left her lover in despair
To sigh, to languish, and to die:
Ah! how can those fair eyes endure
To give the wounds they will not cure!
Great God of Love, why hast thou made
A face that can all hearts command,
That all religions can invade,
And change the laws of every land?
Where thou hadst plac'd such power before,
Thou shouldst have made her mercy more.
When [Bess] to the temple comes,
Adoring crowds before her fall;
She can restore the dead from tombs
And every life but mine recall.
I only am by Love design'd
To be the victim for mankind.
http://www.poetry-archive.com/d/s…
About Sunday 14 June 1663
TerryF • Link
"but I must have patience. I did give her 40s. &c."
As though he were paying penance.
(He does not say "I gave"....)
About Saturday 13 June 1663
TerryF • Link
"in our way saw my Lady Castlemaine, who, I fear, is not so handsome as I have taken her for, and now she begins to decay something."
I take "in our way" to mean "on the very street we walked along" - perhaps they hadn't seen Lady Castlemaine as close-up in a while, if ever (and she without her full "face" on)? If she's pregnant, mightn't one expect her to be, ah, radiant?
About Saturday 13 June 1663
TerryF • Link
As L&M say, commas are editorial, so, perhaps....
About Saturday 13 June 1663
TerryF • Link
From John Gay's "Beggars Opera" (1728)
AIR XXII. Cotillon.
Youth's the Season made for Joys,
Love is then our Duty,
She alone who that employs,
Well deserves her Beauty.
Let's be gay,
While we may,
Beauty's a Flower, despis'd in Decay.
Youth's the Season, &c.
Let us drink and sport to-day,
Ours is not to-morrow.
Love with Youth flies swift away,
Age is nought but Sorrow.
Dance and sing,
Time's on the Wing.
Life never knows the Return of Spring.
CHORUS. Let us drink, &c.
http://www.gutenberg.org/dirs/ete…
About Saturday 13 June 1663
TerryF • Link
Samuel Pepys, prosecutor
First "among the tarr men, to look the price of tarr" then, evidence in hand as to what is charged on theopen market, "a difference with Sir W. Batten about Mr. Bowyer’s tarr..., for I will not have the King abused so abominably in the price of what we buy, by Sir W. Batten’s corruption and underhand dealing."
Case closed!
About Saturday 13 June 1663
TerryF • Link
"This is my wife’s opinion also, for which I am sorry."
Hmmm, let's see - he's sorry that his wife agrees with him about my Lady Castlemaine's decay, or....?
About Friday 12 June 1663
TerryF • Link
IF SP had a "cold," what was he doing 2-3 days ago?
He could have been circulating socially/ putting his immune system at risk at that time (iIt takes a little time for the bugs/germs to gestate) -- We know he is always out and about; but might his immune system also have been just a little stressed by his final (non-)confrontation with Pembleton, or the confrontation of Ashwell, et al., in the wine cellar?
About Saturday 13 June 1663
TerryF • Link
Read The King's Speech abt. his needs for revenue & the Reply
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/…
About Thursday 11 June 1663
TerryF • Link
Wayneman is grounded!
"staid my boy [due to] a letter of my father’s, wherein he desires that [my boy] not come to trouble his family as he did the last year."