27 November 1662 An anntation that L&M note that New England had first been the source of haval supplies in the 1650s, and by the 1660's the Navy Board obtained most of its larger masts from there. http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1…
"Pepys has spotted a fallacy in the theory of separation of powers"
E, continuing to speak anacronistically, is it a *fallacy* or a *limitation" that Pepys may have spotted in the separation of powers as presently drafted in "the propositions for the Civill government and Law Merchant"? These could always be peppered with legally binding mandates that the Governor *shall* do this and that. Is the lack of such clauses, ergo that their meaning is "independent wholly [of] the Governor consenting", what Pepys spotted?
Calvin's Reformed churches were called Presbyterian because they were governed by committees of Elders, ET of the New Testament Gk *presbyteroi* (not by bishops, ET of the Gk *episkopoi*, "overseers" > Episcopal). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pres…
SP acquired a thermometer 23 March 1662/63 "This day Greatorex brought me a very pretty weather-glass for heat and cold." http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1…
"an oath, which the Principal Officers were bound to swear at their entrance into their offices"
Dirk, I've been unable to "dig up the text of this oath" which L&M say was sworn only by the Treasurer [Sir George Carteret], at this time. Methinks the Treasurer's a good man to have bound by such, at the very least, though Sam's point, made years earlier by John Hollond, is certainly well-taken.
Mary answers the Q "Why does the Court need cash?”
In general I agree with your reply about the need, but 'tis not the "the concept of a structured, formal system of National Debt" that's the solution, but a regular form of adequate, not onerous taxation, which the House of Commons is struggling with at this time, as today's Diary entry makes clear. For the larger history of taxation in Great Britain/UK see: http://www.google.com/Top/Regiona…
John Beadle may have provided the model for the Rev. Josselin's diary
John Beadle’s A Journall or Diary of a Thankfull Christian [1656]
“Synopsis: Beadle’s book is essentially a how-to manual about how to write a spiritual diary; moreover, it is the only one of its kind written in seventeenth-century England. Modern scholars often mention its influence and importance in understanding the “journaling” impulse among the Puritans of the 16th and 17th centuries...."
Sir Charles Harbord reports from the Committee appointed to inspect several Branches of his Majesty's Revenue, That, upon Consideration of the long Estates granted of the Crown Lands, the Opinion of the Committee, That the House be moved, That, if they think fit, a Bill may be prepared, to avoid all Leases and Grants made since 29 Maii 1660, for any longer Time than for One, Two, or Three Lives, where they have been usually letten for Lives, or for One-and-thirty Years in Possession, or so many Years in Reversion, as, with the Estates in being, shall not exceed One-and-thirty Years; reserving One half or more of the improved yearly Value in Rent: Saving such Leases and Grants of the Lands of the Duchy of Cornwall, as have been made according to the Rules of the Act made in this present Parliament in that Behalf; and saving the Lands and Rents granted to the Duke of Albemarle and the Earl of Sandwich.
He further reports, That, upon Consideration of the Sub Committee, about Deane Forest, and of the present State and Condition of the said Forest, The Opinion of the Committee, That, if it be resumed into his Majesty's Hands, and managed for his best Advantage; and Fourteen thousand Acres of the Soil, inclosed, re-afforested, and settled in Severalty by Act of Parliament, for a perpetual Growth and Supply of Wood and Timber; it may raise a Revenue of Five thousand Pounds per Annum, by making of Iron there, above Charges of Management; and continue the same for ever; and preserve all the present Timber fit for his Majesty's Shipping, and the young Sapplings of Oak; which may prove a great Nursery of Timber Trees for the Service of the Royal Navy for the Time to come.
He also further reports, That, upon Consideration of the Post Office, the Opinion of the Committee, That it is worth Twenty-six thousand Pounds per Annum, being well managed.
Which Report he read in his Place; and after delivered the same in at the Clerk's Table.
From: 'House of Commons Journal Volume 8: 19 May 1663', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 8: 1660-1667 (1802), pp. 487-88. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/…. Date accessed: 30 March 2006.
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Ref. today's first post's Q's about the need for cash.
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About Thursday 2 April 1663
TerryF • Link
For Captain Holmes's rant see the Diary entry of 7 December 1661 http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1…
About Wednesday 1 April 1663
TerryF • Link
Methinks ^The Sailors Grammar* disagrees with L&M
ergo Phil, but you better preserve the phrase, "From stem to stern", that I added.
About Wednesday 1 April 1663
TerryF • Link
So, in Water Writ, do you agree with Phil Gyford? http://www.pepysdiary.com/encyclo…
L&M disagree with the definition provided by Wheatley and instead say “The stempiece was the main vertical timber of the bow [of a ship].”
From stem to stern, as the saying is.
About Wednesday 1 April 1663
TerryF • Link
masts of New England and stem posts
Sorry about the spelling; I didn't Preview with care
About Wednesday 1 April 1663
TerryF • Link
masts of New England znc xtem posts
27 November 1662
An anntation that L&M note that New England had first been the source of haval supplies in the 1650s, and by the 1660's the Navy Board obtained most of its larger masts from there. http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1…
Why couldn't the same have appled ti stem posts?
About Tuesday 31 March 1663
TerryF • Link
CORRECTION - Britanniae Historia Online
I am at the moment in LaLa Land myself.
About Tuesday 31 March 1663
TerryF • Link
I will third that, O Magister Britanniae Histora Infune!
and can Latinize "Online" better than I
About Lute
TerryF • Link
Sound clips from The [English] Lute Society site provided by Susanna per David Quidnunc
http://www.lutesoc.co.uk/sounds.h…
About Lute
TerryF • Link
Lute sound clip from The [English] Lute Society
http://www.lutesoc.co.uk/sounds.h…
About Tuesday 31 March 1663
TerryF • Link
"hearing by and by that Madam Clerke, Pierce, and others were come to see my wife"
Anybody else wonder how he heard all of this?
About Monday 30 March 1663
TerryF • Link
"Pepys has spotted a fallacy in the theory of separation of powers"
E, continuing to speak anacronistically, is it a *fallacy* or a *limitation" that Pepys may have spotted in the separation of powers as presently drafted in "the propositions for the Civill government and Law Merchant"? These could always be peppered with legally binding mandates that the Governor *shall* do this and that. Is the lack of such clauses, ergo that their meaning is "independent wholly [of] the Governor consenting", what Pepys spotted?
About John Calvin
TerryF • Link
Calvin's Reformed churches were called Presbyterian because they were governed by committees of Elders, ET of the New Testament Gk *presbyteroi* (not by bishops, ET of the Gk *episkopoi*, "overseers" > Episcopal). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pres…
About John Calvin
TerryF • Link
John Calvin (1509–1564) Geneva-based Protestant Reformer of Christianity; for more see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John…
About Monday 30 March 1663
TerryF • Link
Is Sam'l stresssing the separation of the legislative and executive powers?
“independent wholly upon the Governor consenting”
About Thermometer
TerryF • Link
SP acquired a thermometer 23 March 1662/63
"This day Greatorex brought me a very pretty weather-glass for heat and cold." http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1…
About Sunday 29 March 1663
TerryF • Link
"an oath, which the Principal Officers were bound to swear at their entrance into their offices"
Dirk, I've been unable to "dig up the text of this oath" which L&M say was sworn only by the Treasurer [Sir George Carteret], at this time. Methinks the Treasurer's a good man to have bound by such, at the very least, though Sam's point, made years earlier by John Hollond, is certainly well-taken.
About Sunday 29 March 1663
TerryF • Link
Mary answers the Q "Why does the Court need cash?”
In general I agree with your reply about the need, but 'tis not the "the concept of a structured, formal system of National Debt" that's the solution, but a regular form of adequate, not onerous taxation, which the House of Commons is struggling with at this time, as today's Diary entry makes clear. For the larger history of taxation in Great Britain/UK see:
http://www.google.com/Top/Regiona…
About Monday 30 March 1663
TerryF • Link
Did Sam leave home cold this morning?
He got his comeuppance at bed-time.
About Sunday 29 March 1663
TerryF • Link
John Beadle may have provided the model for the Rev. Josselin's diary
John Beadle’s A Journall or Diary of a Thankfull Christian [1656]
“Synopsis: Beadle’s book is essentially a how-to manual about how to write a spiritual diary; moreover, it is the only one of its kind written in seventeenth-century England. Modern scholars often mention its influence and importance in understanding the “journaling” impulse among the Puritans of the 16th and 17th centuries...."
Links to the Amazon listings of a Critical Edition of it: http://www.pepysdiary.com/encyclo…
About Sunday 29 March 1663
TerryF • Link
Robert, it turns out the issue is...
Crown Revenue.
Sir Charles Harbord reports from the Committee appointed to inspect several Branches of his Majesty's Revenue, That, upon Consideration of the long Estates granted of the Crown Lands, the Opinion of the Committee, That the House be moved, That, if they think fit, a Bill may be prepared, to avoid all Leases and Grants made since 29 Maii 1660, for any longer Time than for One, Two, or Three Lives, where they have been usually letten for Lives, or for One-and-thirty Years in Possession, or so many Years in Reversion, as, with the Estates in being, shall not exceed One-and-thirty Years; reserving One half or more of the improved yearly Value in Rent: Saving such Leases and Grants of the Lands of the Duchy of Cornwall, as have been made according to the Rules of the Act made in this present Parliament in that Behalf; and saving the Lands and Rents granted to the Duke of Albemarle and the Earl of Sandwich.
He further reports, That, upon Consideration of the Sub Committee, about Deane Forest, and of the present State and Condition of the said Forest, The Opinion of the Committee, That, if it be resumed into his Majesty's Hands, and managed for his best Advantage; and Fourteen thousand Acres of the Soil, inclosed, re-afforested, and settled in Severalty by Act of Parliament, for a perpetual Growth and Supply of Wood and Timber; it may raise a Revenue of Five thousand Pounds per Annum, by making of Iron there, above Charges of Management; and continue the same for ever; and preserve all the present Timber fit for his Majesty's Shipping, and the young Sapplings of Oak; which may prove a great Nursery of Timber Trees for the Service of the Royal Navy for the Time to come.
He also further reports, That, upon Consideration of the Post Office, the Opinion of the Committee, That it is worth Twenty-six thousand Pounds per Annum, being well managed.
Which Report he read in his Place; and after delivered the same in at the Clerk's Table.
From: 'House of Commons Journal Volume 8: 19 May 1663', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 8: 1660-1667 (1802), pp. 487-88. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/…. Date accessed: 30 March 2006.
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Ref. today's first post's Q's about the need for cash.