“But we said nothing of our business, the Duke being sent for to the King, that he could not stay to speak with us.”
Thanks, A. Hamilton, for that fine reading, which confirms that a great deal of business at that level consisted yet of speaking only -- no written copies/summaries of reports circulated beforehand or handed out for reference/amendment/confirmation.
"But we said nothing of our business, the Duke being sent for to the King, that he could not stay to speak with us."
An odd and interesting locution, evidently meaning that *doing business* is *saying/speaking* -- methinks NOT meaning they did business, but kept it a secret.
"Up by times:" - GrahamT, L&M have it “Up betimes” (early), as you supposed.
Pedro, I inferred that Windsor was among those ID'd as "buccaneers" by the very modern source that I quoted re "Santiago de Cuba": I did think they took liberties with the history of the Caribbean, hence my protest - and yours!
"God knows in what a sad condition I should be in if I were truly in the condition that many a poor man is for debt"
True for nearly the next 200 years, much to the benefit of the colonies of Georgia in North America and New Holland in the South Pacific, aka, Australia.
God knows in what a sad condition we all should be in, if we were truly in the condition that many a poor man was in for debt in those times!!
HOLBEIN, Hans the Younger German painter (b. 1497, Augsburg, d. 1543, London) Among his frequent clients in London were the merchants of the German Steelyard. Among his works on the web are: Early paintings in Basle and Lucerne (1515-19) Paintings in Basle (1519-25) The Oberried Altarpiece (1521-22) and the Passion Altarpiece (1524-25) Paintings during the first visit to England (1526-28) Paintings after the return to Basle (1529-31) Paintings in England (1532-35) The Ambassadors (1533) in London Portraits of Henry VIII and his Family Paintings in England (1536-43) Drawings and woodcuts Miniatures Miscellaneous works http://gallery.euroweb.hu/html/h/…
The Steelyard is located off the Thames near the lower right-hand corner of this segment of the 1746 map of London, etc. http://www.motco.com/map/81002/Se…
"Founded in 1514 by Diego de Velázquez and moved to its present site in 1588, Santiago served for some time as Cuba's capital. In its early days, it was captured by French and English buccaneers and was a center of the smuggling trade with the British West Indies." http://www.answers.com/topic/sant…
Well!! My Lord Windsor a buccaneer?! (It all depends on one's POV.)
James masc. proper name, name of two of Christ's disciples, late 12c. M.E. vernacular form of L.L. Jacomus (cf. O.Fr. James, Sp. Jaime, It. Giacomo), altered from L. Jacobus (see Jacob). The Welsh form was Iago, the Cornish Jago. http://www.etymonline.com/index.p…
"the Merchants’ Gate, under which we pass to go into our garden"
L&M note that the garden of the Navy Office "stretched eastward almost to Tower Hill, and a narrow tongue of ground from that Hill gave access to a gate in the garden wall." This was the back-entrance to the Navy Office garden that Sam'l used when sleeping in a spare room while his flat was being remodeled after Penn returned unexpected by all except Robert Gertz (as I recall it) from Ireland a few months ago.
S: (n) rotter, dirty dog, rat, skunk, stinker, stinkpot, bum, puke, crumb, lowlife, scum bag, so-and-so, git (a person who is deemed to be despicable or contemptible) "only a rotter would do that"; "kill the rat"; "throw the bum out"; "you cowardly little pukes!"; "the British call a contemptible person a `git'" http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl…
Actually, Mennes (sic) likely turns 64 later this year.
Aye, in Aqua Scripto, you are again correct - the reference to "retirement" at 65 was my sad jest for those of us in this day and age who lack a country estate with milkmaids a-milking to watch.
Woolen Cloth. Resolved, &c. That a Committee be appointed to prepare and bring in a Bill for the Redress of the Falsities and Abuses in making Woolen Cloth, and other English Manufactures; and to enjoin the Wearing of them by the Subjects of this Kingdom; viz. Sir Hen. Bennett, Sir Courtney Poole, Sir Cliff. Clifton, Sir Robert Atkyns, Mr. Mountague, Sir Rich. Ford, Mr. Jones, Sir Bain. Throckmorton, Sir Fra. Goodrick, Mr. Clifford, Sir Cha. Harbord, Sir Wm. Doyley, Mr. Wm. Coventry, Sir Wm. Tompson, Sir James Smith, Sir Edm. Peirce, Colonel Sandys, Sir Rich. Temple, Mr. Wm. Sandys, Mr. Birch, Sir John Denham, Sir Cha. Hussey, Mr. Fane, Mr. Bulteele, Mr. Dennis, Lord Gorge, Sir Lan. Lake, Mr. Lewis, Sir Tho. Lee, Mr. Geo. Clarke, Sir Nic. Crispe, Mr. Croke, Sir Fra. Hen. Lea, Mr. Vaughan, Sir Tho. Wendy, Mr. Seymour, Mr. Knight, Mr. Garway, Sir Solomon Swale, Sir Phil. Warwick, Mr. Jolly, Sir Geo. Cartwright, Lord Fanshaw, Mr. Crouch, Mr. Coventry, Sir Tho. Meres, Mr. Jones, Sir Tho. Allen, Sir Edward Walpoole, Mr. Hungerford, Mr. Streete, Sir Theo. Biddulph, Sir John Birkinhead, Sir Tho. Fanshaw: And all the Members of this House, that shall come, are to have Voices at the Committee: And they are to meet on Monday next, at Two of the Clock in the Afternoon, in the Star Chamber: And to send for Persons, Papers, and Records.
From: 'House of Commons Journal Volume 8: 21 February 1663', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 8: 1660-1667 (1802), p. 438. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/…. Date accessed: 22 February 2006.
For those who follow the Diary there are several familiars named to this Committee to resist the globalising forces of entrepreneurial captialism (as Karl Marx would call it in London in 1848), predecessor to others that would propose legislation mandating minimum percentages of British entertainment fare, etc.
Six songs from it: Thy love is chaste they tell thee so Drink to me boy Here I pipe here I keep I am an evening dark as night (Song in Dialogue) Buff's a fine sport Phoebus [Who calls the world's great light] (Song with dialogue interspersed) http://www.arts.monash.edu.au/eng…
Sir Robert Stapylton of Carelton in Yorkshire, a poet of much fame, was at the battle of Edgehill with King Charles the First, and had an honorary degree given him at Oxford for his behaviour on that occasion. He wrote the Slighted Maid, a comedy; The Step-Mother, a tragi-comedy; and Hero and Leander, a tragedy; besides several poems and translations.] http://www.uq.edu.au/emsah/drama/…
The Hall of the Worshipful Company of Barbers, then Barber-Surgeons, later Barbers has, since the 14c been located in Monkwell Street, which may be found on the left side of this segment of the 1746 map. http://www.motco.com/map/81002/Se…
In 1540 the Surgeons Guild and the Company of Barbers were amalgamated by Act of Parliament which, among other privileges, allotted the new Company the bodies of four executed criminals for dissection every year. The functions of barbers and surgeons were separated and they were not permitted to undertake each other's work. The writ of the Company lay within a radius of one mile from the City and Westminster. At this time the Barber-Surgeons had the largest number of Freemen of any City Livery Company. This new organisation continued with some difficulty for a hundred years but it was seldom peaceful and there were always disputes between the factions, which had to be resolved. The Company continued this dual role into the seventeenth century. Until 1745 the Company also undertook the examination of Surgeons for the Navy. http://www.barberscompany.org.uk/…
The Hall of the Worshipful Company of Barbers, then Barber-Surgeons, later Barbers has, since the 14c been located in Monkwell Street, which may be found on the left side of this segment of the 1746 map. http://www.motco.com/map/81002/Se…
Comments
First Reading
About Monday 23 February 1662/63
TerryF • Link
“But we said nothing of our business, the Duke being sent for to the King, that he could not stay to speak with us.”
Thanks, A. Hamilton, for that fine reading, which confirms that a great deal of business at that level consisted yet of speaking only -- no written copies/summaries of reports circulated beforehand or handed out for reference/amendment/confirmation.
About Monday 23 February 1662/63
TerryF • Link
"But we said nothing of our business, the Duke being sent for to the King, that he could not stay to speak with us."
An odd and interesting locution, evidently meaning that *doing business* is *saying/speaking* -- methinks NOT meaning they did business, but kept it a secret.
About Monday 23 February 1662/63
TerryF • Link
"Up by times:" - GrahamT, L&M have it “Up betimes” (early), as you supposed.
Pedro, I inferred that Windsor was among those ID'd as "buccaneers" by the very modern source that I quoted re "Santiago de Cuba": I did think they took liberties with the history of the Caribbean, hence my protest - and yours!
About Monday 23 February 1662/63
TerryF • Link
"God knows in what a sad condition I should be in if I were truly in the condition that many a poor man is for debt"
True for nearly the next 200 years, much to the benefit of the colonies of Georgia in North America and New Holland in the South Pacific, aka, Australia.
God knows in what a sad condition we all should be in, if we were truly in the condition that many a poor man was in for debt in those times!!
About Hans Holbein (the Younger)
TerryF • Link
HOLBEIN, Hans the Younger
German painter (b. 1497, Augsburg, d. 1543, London) Among his frequent clients in London were the merchants of the German Steelyard. Among his works on the web are:
Early paintings in Basle and Lucerne (1515-19)
Paintings in Basle (1519-25)
The Oberried Altarpiece (1521-22) and the Passion Altarpiece (1524-25)
Paintings during the first visit to England (1526-28)
Paintings after the return to Basle (1529-31)
Paintings in England (1532-35)
The Ambassadors (1533) in London
Portraits of Henry VIII and his Family
Paintings in England (1536-43)
Drawings and woodcuts
Miniatures
Miscellaneous works
http://gallery.euroweb.hu/html/h/…
About Rhenish winehouse (Steelyard)
TerryF • Link
The Steelyard is located off the Thames near the lower right-hand corner of this segment of the 1746 map of London, etc. http://www.motco.com/map/81002/Se…
About Monday 23 February 1662/63
Terry F • Link
Santiago de Cuba
"Founded in 1514 by Diego de Velázquez and moved to its present site in 1588, Santiago served for some time as Cuba's capital. In its early days, it was captured by French and English buccaneers and was a center of the smuggling trade with the British West Indies."
http://www.answers.com/topic/sant…
Well!! My Lord Windsor a buccaneer?!
(It all depends on one's POV.)
About Monday 23 February 1662/63
Terry F • Link
Santiago, St. James the Greater
Scroll down here for "St. James in Spain" http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/0…
About Monday 23 February 1662/63
Terry F • Link
St Jago
I.e. Santiago (St James)
James masc. proper name, name of two of Christ's disciples, late 12c. M.E. vernacular form of L.L. Jacomus (cf. O.Fr. James, Sp. Jaime, It. Giacomo), altered from L. Jacobus (see Jacob). The Welsh form was Iago, the Cornish Jago.
http://www.etymonline.com/index.p…
"the Merchants’ Gate, under which we pass to go into our garden"
L&M note that the garden of the Navy Office "stretched eastward almost to Tower Hill, and a narrow tongue of ground from that Hill gave access to a gate in the garden wall." This was the back-entrance to the Navy Office garden that Sam'l used when sleeping in a spare room while his flat was being remodeled after Penn returned unexpected by all except Robert Gertz (as I recall it) from Ireland a few months ago.
About Sunday 22 February 1662/63
Terry F • Link
The Diary began 1 January 1659/60, so likely there was some confusion.
About Sunday 22 February 1662/63
Terry F • Link
"no acknowledgement of his birthday" which is today!!
Of course, today's entry will be written and blogged tonight.
About Sunday 22 February 1662/63
Terry F • Link
"What is a git?"
S: (n) rotter, dirty dog, rat, skunk, stinker, stinkpot, bum, puke, crumb, lowlife, scum bag, so-and-so, git (a person who is deemed to be despicable or contemptible) "only a rotter would do that"; "kill the rat"; "throw the bum out"; "you cowardly little pukes!"; "the British call a contemptible person a `git'" http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl…
Quite tasteful, really.
About Sunday 22 February 1662/63
Terry F • Link
"So at night discontented to prayers, and to bed."
Indeed, apparently Pepys's pain's a product of his superiors' apathy.
About Saturday 21 February 1662/63
Terry F • Link
Actually, Mennes (sic) likely turns 64 later this year.
Aye, in Aqua Scripto, you are again correct - the reference to "retirement" at 65 was my sad jest for those of us in this day and age who lack a country estate with milkmaids a-milking to watch.
About Saturday 21 February 1662/63
Terry F • Link
"Minnes, an aged supernumerary"
Aged? A. Hamilton, he's only 64 years old, the seniot man in the shop, but not old enough to retire.
About Saturday 21 February 1662/63
Terry F • Link
Woolen Cloth.
Resolved, &c. That a Committee be appointed to prepare and bring in a Bill for the Redress of the Falsities and Abuses in making Woolen Cloth, and other English Manufactures; and to enjoin the Wearing of them by the Subjects of this Kingdom; viz. Sir Hen. Bennett, Sir Courtney Poole, Sir Cliff. Clifton, Sir Robert Atkyns, Mr. Mountague, Sir Rich. Ford, Mr. Jones, Sir Bain. Throckmorton, Sir Fra. Goodrick, Mr. Clifford, Sir Cha. Harbord, Sir Wm. Doyley, Mr. Wm. Coventry, Sir Wm. Tompson, Sir James Smith, Sir Edm. Peirce, Colonel Sandys, Sir Rich. Temple, Mr. Wm. Sandys, Mr. Birch, Sir John Denham, Sir Cha. Hussey, Mr. Fane, Mr. Bulteele, Mr. Dennis, Lord Gorge, Sir Lan. Lake, Mr. Lewis, Sir Tho. Lee, Mr. Geo. Clarke, Sir Nic. Crispe, Mr. Croke, Sir Fra. Hen. Lea, Mr. Vaughan, Sir Tho. Wendy, Mr. Seymour, Mr. Knight, Mr. Garway, Sir Solomon Swale, Sir Phil. Warwick, Mr. Jolly, Sir Geo. Cartwright, Lord Fanshaw, Mr. Crouch, Mr. Coventry, Sir Tho. Meres, Mr. Jones, Sir Tho. Allen, Sir Edward Walpoole, Mr. Hungerford, Mr. Streete, Sir Theo. Biddulph, Sir John Birkinhead, Sir Tho. Fanshaw: And all the Members of this House, that shall come, are to have Voices at the Committee: And they are to meet on Monday next, at Two of the Clock in the Afternoon, in the Star Chamber: And to send for Persons, Papers, and Records.
From: 'House of Commons Journal Volume 8: 21 February 1663', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 8: 1660-1667 (1802), p. 438. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/…. Date accessed: 22 February 2006.
For those who follow the Diary there are several familiars named to this Committee to resist the globalising forces of entrepreneurial captialism (as Karl Marx would call it in London in 1848), predecessor to others that would propose legislation mandating minimum percentages of British entertainment fare, etc.
About Saturday 21 February 1662/63
Terry F • Link
"fees of the commission, which comes to five marks"
How much, pray tell, would that be? (I ask finding the current Background info of no help)
Evidently pocket-change?
About The Slighted Maid (Sir Robert Stapylton)
Terry F • Link
A comedy first performed 23 February 1663
Six songs from it:
Thy love is chaste they tell thee so
Drink to me boy
Here I pipe here I keep
I am an evening dark as night (Song in Dialogue)
Buff's a fine sport
Phoebus [Who calls the world's great light] (Song with dialogue interspersed)
http://www.arts.monash.edu.au/eng…
Sir Robert Stapylton of Carelton in Yorkshire, a poet of much fame, was at the battle of Edgehill with King Charles the First, and had an honorary degree given him at Oxford for his behaviour on that occasion. He wrote the Slighted Maid, a comedy; The Step-Mother, a tragi-comedy; and Hero and Leander, a tragedy; besides several poems and translations.]
http://www.uq.edu.au/emsah/drama/…
About Barber-Surgeons' Hall
Terry F • Link
The Hall of the Worshipful Company of Barbers, then Barber-Surgeons, later Barbers has, since the 14c been located in Monkwell Street, which may be found on the left side of this segment of the 1746 map.
http://www.motco.com/map/81002/Se…
About Barber-Surgeons' Company
Terry F • Link
The Barber-Surgeons Company
In 1540 the Surgeons Guild and the Company of Barbers were amalgamated by Act of Parliament which, among other privileges, allotted the new Company the bodies of four executed criminals for dissection every year. The functions of barbers and surgeons were separated and they were not permitted to undertake each other's work. The writ of the Company lay within a radius of one mile from the City and Westminster. At this time the Barber-Surgeons had the largest number of Freemen of any City Livery Company. This new organisation continued with some difficulty for a hundred years but it was seldom peaceful and there were always disputes between the factions, which had to be resolved. The Company continued this dual role into the seventeenth century. Until 1745 the Company also undertook the examination of Surgeons for the Navy.
http://www.barberscompany.org.uk/…
The Hall of the Worshipful Company of Barbers, then Barber-Surgeons, later Barbers has, since the 14c been located in Monkwell Street, which may be found on the left side of this segment of the 1746 map.
http://www.motco.com/map/81002/Se…