I would guess, from the very careful evaluation Pepy's gives of gifts in kind, that they are included in his accounts, along with the money Sandwich owes him. I wonder if any of his accounts survive?
I think the charge might just be the high cost of entertaining royalty to the expected standard. I understand that when Queen Elizabeth I visited nobles, the whole court came, and the nobles and towns had to pay dearly for the privilege of entertaining her.
I forgot to mention the collection includes a 1679 model of Charles II's yacht. It's much bigger than what I think of as a yacht. See pictures 3 and 4 in this museum slide show. https://www.usna.edu/Museum/colle…
108 ship models are on display at the Rogers Ship Model Collection in the Naval Academy Museum in Annapolis. The earliest is from 1650, and over 50 of them are dockyard models built at the same time as the ship they represent. This short video of a tour of the exhibition gives some of the flavor of the models: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7…
This whole thread makes me think that most of our waking hours are like dream. Here is England drifting into war, as if asleep with no sensory input and no planning. And in these days, Brexit was no better planned than this 17th century war with the Dutch.
Jane Austen had a wonderful portrait of puppyism in Emma, via the pretentious Mrs. Elton. Of course that was puppies 100 plus years later: “A very fine young man indeed, Mr. Weston. You know I candidly told you I should form my own opinion; and I am happy to say that I am extremely pleased with him. You may believe me. I never compliment. I think him a very handsome young man, and his manners are precisely what I like and approve — so truly the gentleman, without the least conceit or puppyism. You must know I have a vast dislike to puppies — quite a horror of them. They were never tolerated at Maple Grove. Neither Mr. Suckling nor me had ever any patience with them; and we used sometimes to say very cutting things! Selina, who is mild almost to a fault, bore with them much better.” Emma, Chapter 38
I was wondering about the transcription of "mad merry slut" vs. mad merry soul". Is the original shorthand online so that we could get a crowd-sourced opinion?
I was wondering which Encyclopedia SD Sarah was citing, but found the quotation in the Wikipedia article on Robert Holmes, at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob…. Thanks to SDS for the quotation. He did have an interesting life.
Perhaps Mr Gauden had the contract to provide provisions at a fixed price, and if they observe lent and get fish elsewhere he doesn't have to provide as much beef, pork, etc. In the link on Gauden, Pedro in 2006 says that Gauden in 1673 was noted as a stingy supplier of provisions to Tangier.
I like that every man has a right to passage in, but not title to, any highway. It seems this established the public road system and perhaps led to Britain's famous country path right of ways.
Looking at the "carve, drink and show me great respect" I'm wondering if she was carving out a particularly delectable piece for Sam, and even being flirtatious with him. As to whether she had any choice, there can be a wide degree in how accepting she could have been, from friendly smiles to a sudden attention to something else as he approaches. Seems like quite a bawd party.
A video of the Coranto, as reconstructed from Arbeau. Arbeau wrote 80 or so years earlier, so it may have changed by Pepys day. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D…
ISIS is centered in Northern Iraq and Eastern Syria, thus thousands of miles East of the Barbary Pirates who were suppressed with the colonial occupation in the early 19th Century.
Quakers may have been disciplined by Fox, but they still continued to be imprisoned for disobedience and disrespect, as Pepys often notes, and of course continued to have women speaking and women leaders at their Meetings, so the reaction Christopher Hill describes is a bit over-stated.
The note about Dunkirk was surprising. In the entry a day or two before Sam didn't seem to have any objection, but now is "sorry". I wonder what the French interest was at the time? Why spend good money for a small port? Though in the earlier note there was also a promise of England's aid against Spain. I wonder also why Charles didn't sell off the Channel Islands while he was at it.
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Second Reading
About Sunday 31 July 1664
James Morgan • Link
I would guess, from the very careful evaluation Pepy's gives of gifts in kind, that they are included in his accounts, along with the money Sandwich owes him. I wonder if any of his accounts survive?
About Thursday 23 June 1664
James Morgan • Link
I think the charge might just be the high cost of entertaining royalty to the expected standard. I understand that when Queen Elizabeth I visited nobles, the whole court came, and the nobles and towns had to pay dearly for the privilege of entertaining her.
About Saturday 7 May 1664
James Morgan • Link
I forgot to mention the collection includes a 1679 model of Charles II's yacht. It's much bigger than what I think of as a yacht. See pictures 3 and 4 in this museum slide show.
https://www.usna.edu/Museum/colle…
About Saturday 7 May 1664
James Morgan • Link
108 ship models are on display at the Rogers Ship Model Collection in the Naval Academy Museum in Annapolis. The earliest is from 1650, and over 50 of them are dockyard models built at the same time as the ship they represent. This short video of a tour of the exhibition gives some of the flavor of the models:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7…
About Saturday 2 April 1664
James Morgan • Link
This whole thread makes me think that most of our waking hours are like dream. Here is England drifting into war, as if asleep with no sensory input and no planning. And in these days, Brexit was no better planned than this 17th century war with the Dutch.
About Wednesday 16 March 1663/64
James Morgan • Link
Jane Austen had a wonderful portrait of puppyism in Emma, via the pretentious Mrs. Elton. Of course that was puppies 100 plus years later:
“A very fine young man indeed, Mr. Weston. You know I candidly told you I should form my own opinion; and I am happy to say that I am extremely pleased with him. You may believe me. I never compliment. I think him a very handsome young man, and his manners are precisely what I like and approve — so truly the gentleman, without the least conceit or puppyism. You must know I have a vast dislike to puppies — quite a horror of them. They were never tolerated at Maple Grove. Neither Mr. Suckling nor me had ever any patience with them; and we used sometimes to say very cutting things! Selina, who is mild almost to a fault, bore with them much better.” Emma, Chapter 38
About Thursday 4 February 1663/64
James Morgan • Link
I was wondering about the transcription of "mad merry slut" vs. mad merry soul". Is the original shorthand online so that we could get a crowd-sourced opinion?
About Sunday 27 December 1663
James Morgan • Link
I was wondering which Encyclopedia SD Sarah was citing, but found the quotation in the Wikipedia article on Robert Holmes, at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob…. Thanks to SDS for the quotation. He did have an interesting life.
About Saturday 12 December 1663
James Morgan • Link
Perhaps Mr Gauden had the contract to provide provisions at a fixed price, and if they observe lent and get fish elsewhere he doesn't have to provide as much beef, pork, etc. In the link on Gauden, Pedro in 2006 says that Gauden in 1673 was noted as a stingy supplier of provisions to Tangier.
About Sunday 6 December 1663
James Morgan • Link
Thanks for the note about Gresham college lectures. It looks like a great resource.
About Tuesday 1 December 1663
James Morgan • Link
I like that every man has a right to passage in, but not title to, any highway. It seems this established the public road system and perhaps led to Britain's famous country path right of ways.
About Thursday 6 August 1663
James Morgan • Link
Looking at the "carve, drink and show me great respect" I'm wondering if she was carving out a particularly delectable piece for Sam, and even being flirtatious with him. As to whether she had any choice, there can be a wide degree in how accepting she could have been, from friendly smiles to a sudden attention to something else as he approaches. Seems like quite a bawd party.
About Monday 4 May 1663
James Morgan • Link
A video of the Coranto, as reconstructed from Arbeau. Arbeau wrote 80 or so years earlier, so it may have changed by Pepys day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D…
About Mediterranean (The Straits)
James Morgan • Link
ISIS is centered in Northern Iraq and Eastern Syria, thus thousands of miles East of the Barbary Pirates who were suppressed with the colonial occupation in the early 19th Century.
About Tuesday 2 December 1662
James Morgan • Link
Quakers may have been disciplined by Fox, but they still continued to be imprisoned for disobedience and disrespect, as Pepys often notes, and of course continued to have women speaking and women leaders at their Meetings, so the reaction Christopher Hill describes is a bit over-stated.
About Friday 24 October 1662
James Morgan • Link
I don't recall any of Sam's birthdays being mentioned.
About Monday 20 October 1662
James Morgan • Link
The note about Dunkirk was surprising. In the entry a day or two before Sam didn't seem to have any objection, but now is "sorry".
I wonder what the French interest was at the time? Why spend good money for a small port? Though in the earlier note there was also a promise of England's aid against Spain.
I wonder also why Charles didn't sell off the Channel Islands while he was at it.